[* Portions of this meeting are without audio *]
[I. CALL TO ORDER- Chairman Osborne]
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TO NOVEMBER, 2025, UH, COMMISSION MEETING.
UH, AT THIS TIME, UH, COMMISSIONER DURAN IS GONNA OUR INVOCATION.
SO IF YOU WOULD, LET'S PLEASE BOW OUR HEADS.
MOST HEAVEN, ADOLESCENT FATHER, WE COME BEFORE YOU RIGHT NOW.
LORD, JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU.
THANK YOU FOR BRINGING US TOGETHER ONE MORE TIME TO BE ABLE TO DO OUR PLANNING FOR THE MONTH OF NOVEMBER.
AND WE JUST THANK EVERYONE THAT BLESS EVERYONE, TRANSPORTATION AND TRAVELING TO THIS MEETING COUPLED, BLESS OUR COUNTY, BLESSED OUR, UH, COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND EVERYTHING THAT MAKES UP THE DIFFERENCE FOR OUR COUNTY.
[III. MINUTES]
UH, COMMISSIONERS, YOU RECEIVED THE MINUTES FROM OUR, OUR LAST MEETING IN YOUR PACKET.UH, I HOPE YOU HAD A CHANCE TO READ OVER 'EM.
IF THERE ARE ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE NOTED, UH, NOW WOULD BE A GOOD TIME TO, UH, SAY SO.
IF NOT, UH, I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION THAT WE RECEIVED THE MINUTES AS, AS THEY WERE PRESENTED.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT THE HAVE A, UM, MOTION BY COMMISSIONER JOHNSON TO ACCEPT THE MINUTES AS PRESENTED AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER DURANT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED? AND THE AYES HAVE IT.
[V. NEW BUSINESS (Part 1 of 2)]
BUSINESS.SO WE'LL GO RIGHT INTO OUR NEW BUSINESS.
AND THE FIRST, UH, UH, ITEM IS UNDER NEW BUSINESS IS PZ DASH 25 DASH 37.
ALEX KUMA, UH, ARE YOU HERE? WOULD YOU PLEASE STEP UP TO THE PODIUM PLEASE AND JUST STATE YOUR NAME SO THE LADIES CAN PUT IT IN THE RECORD.
HELLO, MA'AM? UM, MY NAME IS DAVID TORRES.
I'LL BE TRANSLATING FOR, UH, SACRAMENTO, BRAZILIAN.
UM, AND MS. UH, DEPUTY DIRECTOR MS. ABBO PARKER WILL READ THE APPLICATION.
THE ATTACHED PERFORMANCE ZONE APPLICATION HAS BEEN SUBMITTED FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSIONER DUE BY ALEX KUMA REQUESTING THE ZONING CERTIFICATION TO PERMIT THE PLACEMENT OF TWO SHIPPING CONTAINERS USED FOR STORAGE ONLY WITHOUT THE EXISTENCE OF A PRIMARY STRUCTURE ON A PARCEL LOCATED ON RAPID EDGE TRAIL SUMMERTON, SOUTH CAROLINA.
THE PZ APPLICATION OF RECORDED DOCUMENTS ARE ATTACHED FOR YOUR REVIEW, ZONING, AND USE.
THE SUBJECT PARCEL IS LOCATED, PARDON ME IF I MISPRONOUNCE THIS LAST NAME, BUT, AND CORRECT.
UH, IT HURT MY FEELINGS, BUT, UH, DOES MR. KUMA HAVE ANYTHING THAT HE WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO THE APPLICATION?
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NO, NOT AT, NOT AS NOW.OR IS THERE ANYONE HERE IN OPPOSITION TO THIS APPLICATION? OKAY.
COMMISSIONERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. KUMA? THERE? THERE'S NOTHING ON THIS LOT AT THIS PRESENT TIME? NOT AT THIS, WELL, AT THIS MOMENT.
THERE'S, UH, STORAGE CONTAINERS.
WHEN HE WAS NOTIFIED THAT HE WOULD HAVE TO REMOVE 'EM, WE PUT IN THE APPLICATION.
'CAUSE THAT HE'S CURRENTLY RESIDING IN BERKELEY COUNTY.
HE'S ACTUALLY MY NEIGHBOR RIGHT NOW, BUT HE'S TRYING TO RELOCATE UP HERE AT SOME POINT.
SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST, HE BOUGHT THE PROPERTY.
AT SOME POINT WE'RE GONNA TRY TO BUILD ON THE PROPERTY SO THAT HIM AND HIS FAMILY CAN COME UP HERE AND RESIDE UP IN CLATON COUNTY AND THE PROPERTY HE JUST PURCHASED.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ELECTRICAL SERVICE? UM, ELECTRICAL, YES.
THEY'RE IN THE PROCESS OF, UH, INPUTTING IT OR THEY PUT THE ELECTRIC POST, BUT IT'S NOT CONNECTED TO THE SHIPPING POTATOES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
BUT THEY HAVE PUT SOME ELECTRIC, UH, ON THE PROPERTY.
I SEE HERE IT STATES THAT THIS IS STORAGE ONLY.
IF PRETTY MUCH, LIKE IF FILL WAS A SHED ON THE PROPERTY, AND SO WE CAN SORT THINGS FOR A SERVICE POOL, YOU'RE NOT GONNA HAVE NO POWER GOING THROUGH THE STORAGE.
NOT, NOT TO THE STORAGE CONTAINER, SIR.
THERE'S A POOL THERE RIGHT NOW.
SO AS WE START CONSTRUCTING EVENTUALLY ONE TIME PERMITS, UH, AND THEY WERE READY TO COME OUT HERE, WE'RE GONNA START PULLING PERMITS FOR BUILDING AND WHEN, WHEN THAT COMES AROUND.
WE'LL, THAT'S, THAT'S CORRECT.
THEY WOULD HAVE TO SUBMIT, UM, CONSTRUCTION PLANS.
FOR RIGHT NOW IT'S JUST THE, THE PERMIT FOR THE STORAGE CONTAINERS AND JUST TO BE USED AS STORAGE.
UM, WHEN TIME COMES FOR CONSTRUCTION WILL BE PUTTING IN PERMITS FOR CONSTRUCTION.
YOU HAVE TO COME BACK TO THE
BUT FOR NOW, IT'S BEFORE YOU COULD GET, YOU KNOW, SERVICE.
YEAH, THEY, THEY, THEY RAN THE LINES, BUT THERE'S NO SERVICE.
THEY, THEY DON'T HAVE A METER ON IT, SO THERE'S NOTHING PLUGGED INTO IT.
UM, BUT I, I BELIEVE THAT THEY DID RUN IT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONS, WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE, MR. CHAIRMAN? I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE, UH, PZ 2025 DASH 37, UH, RAPID EDGE TRAIL.
ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE BY COMMISSIONER JOHNSON.
YOU KNOW, THAT YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO GET THOSE SERVICE NOW ONCE YOU PUT THE BUILDING THERE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT GOING GET SERVICE, BUT NO LIGHTS OR NOTHING UNTIL YOU COME BACK AWAY.
AS LONG AS WE GET THE PERMIT FOR THE STORAGE CONTAINERS, WE'RE, WE'RE OKAY THAT, THAT BE SET UPFRONT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE WANT YOU TO THINK THAT YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO GO APPLY FOR LIGHTS, PUT UP A CERTAIN FORM TO BE ABLE TO GET POWER.
YEAH, NO, UM, THE MAIN CONCERN WAS TO BE, HAVE THE STORAGE CONTAINERS THERE AS STORAGE FOR, FOR NOW.
AND THEN AS TIME GOES, WE'LL BE SUBMITTING MORE PERMITS FOR, UM, AS WE'RE CONSTRUCTING THEIR PERMANENT RESIDENCE THERE.
AND, AND THOSE PLANS WILL BE COMING BY THE DESK.
SECOND THAT MR. CHAIR, HAVE A SECOND.
THAT COMMISSIONER, UH, GAMBLE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED? AND AYES HAVE IT.
YOUR YOUR, YOUR REQUEST IS NOT APPROVED.
THEY CAN COME BY THE OFFICE ANYTIME OR, UH, ANYTIME FRIDAY.
AND THE, THE STAFF WILL, UH, UH, HELP YOU GET YOUR PERMIT.
NEXT ON OUR AGENDA IS PZ DASH 25 DASH 38.
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MA'AM, IF YOU WOULD JUST STATE YOUR NAME SO THE LADIES CAN PUT IT IN THE RECORD.AND MS. ABNEY, WE WILL READ THE APPLICATION.
THE ATTACK PERFORMANCE ZONE APPLICATION HAS BEEN SUBMITTED FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEW BY MICHAEL MILLER.
MR. MILLER'S REQUESTING THE ZONING CERTIFICATION TO PREVENT THE PLACEMENT OF A MANUFACTURED HOME ON A PARCEL LOCATED AT 1 3 3 4 8 HIGHWAY TWO 60 MANNING SOUTH CAROLINA.
THE PZ APPLICATION IN SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS ARE ATTACHED TO YOUR REVIEW.
THE SUBJECT PARCEL IS LOCATED IN PERFORMANCE ZONE DISTRICT OF CLA COUNTY.
A MANUFACTURED HOME IS THE PERMITTED USE IN THE FE DISTRICT, SUBJECT TO ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT REQUIREMENTS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION MAY IMPOSE TO ENSURE THAT SUCH USE IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE SUBJECT PARCEL IS APPROXIMATELY TWO ACRES AND SIZE.
THE PROPOSED MANUFACTURED HOME WILL BE SERVICED BY PUBLIC WATER AND A SEPTIC SYSTEM.
THE SURROUNDING AREAS PREDOMINANTLY ARE RURAL RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD NEAR THE LAKE.
THE IMMEDIATE VICINITY INCLUDES A MIXTURE OF STICK BUILT HOMES, MANUFACTURED HOMES IN WOODLAND.
THE PARK IS LOCATED NEAR STATE HIGHWAY, WHICH MAY PROVIDE SUFFICIENT ACCESS TO THE PLACEMENT OF MANUFACTURED HOMES BASED ON THE STAFF.
OBSERVATION AND SURROUNDING AREA IS PRIMARILY A RURAL RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD DEALER LAKE WITH A MIXTURE OF SIX OF HOMES, MANUFACTURED HOMES IN WOODLAND.
THE PROPOSED USE MAY BE COMPATIBLE IF IT DOES NOT NEGATIVELY IMPACT YOU'D LIKE TO ADD TO THE APPLICATION? NO, SIR.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE IN OPPOSITION TO THIS APPLICATION? OKAY.
UH, COMMISSIONERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I NOTICED ON THE APPLICATION THAT THE APPLICANT'S NAME IS MICHAEL MILLER PROPERTIES AND THAT, UM, YOU PUT A, A, A NEW DOUBLE ITEM.
IS THIS TO LIVE IN OR RENT? UM, IT'S TO RENT.
MAKE P 20 25 30 HAVE A, A MOTION TO APPROVE BY COMMISSIONER DURAN.
IS THERE A SECOND? HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER PASTEL.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED? AND THE AYES HAVE IT, AND YOU CAN COME BY THE OFFICE FRIDAY TO PICK UP YOUR PERMIT.
NEXT ON OUR AGENDA IS PZ 25 39 ABIGAIL, AND IF YOU WOULD JUST STATE YOUR NAME SO THE LADIES CAN PUT IT IN RECORD.
AND MS. ABONY WILL READ THE APPLICATION.
THE TAX PERFORMANCE ZONE APPLICATION HAS BEEN SUBMITTED FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEW BY JOSEPH AND ABIGAIL COCO.
MR. AND MRS. KOCH ARE REQUESTED THE ZONING CERTIFICATION TO PERMIT THE PLACEMENT OF A MANUFACTURED HOME ON A PARCEL LOCATED AT 10 92 TROUT AVENUE MANNING, SOUTH CAROLINA.
THE PC APPLICATION IN SUPPORTED DOCUMENTS ARE ATTACHED VIA YOUR REVIEW.
THE SUBJECT PARCEL IS LOCATED IN THE PERFORMANCE ZONE DISTRICT OF CLATON COUNTY.
A MANUFACTURED HOME IS A PERMITTED USE IN THE PG DISTRICT, SUBJECT TO ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT REQUIREMENTS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION MAY IMPOSE TO ENSURE THAT SUCH USE IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA.
THE SUBJECT PARCEL IS APPROXIMATELY ONE ACRE IN SIZE.
THE PROPOSED MANUFACTURED HOME WILL BE SERVICED BY A PRIVATE AND SEPTIC SYSTEM.
THE SURROUNDING AREAS PREDOMINANTLY CONSISTS OF NATURAL WOODLANDS MANUFACTURED HOMES IN A RURAL RESIDENTIAL AREA.
THE IMMEDIATE VICINITY VICINITY INCLUDES WOODLANDS AND MANUFACTURED HOMES.
THE PARCEL IS LOCATED NEAR STATE HIGHWAY, WHICH MAY PROVIDE SUFFICIENT ACCESS FOR THE, THE PLACEMENT OF A MANUFACTURED HOME.
BASED ON THE STAFF'S OBSERVATION, THE SURROUNDING AREAS PREDOMINANTLY A RURAL RESIDENTIAL AREA WITH MANUFACTURED HOMES AND NATURAL WOODLANDS.
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PROPOSED USE MAY BE COMPATIBLE IF IT DOES NOT NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE CHARACTER OF THE SURROUNDING AREA.WHILE THE SURROUNDING AREAS PREDOMINANTLY A RURAL AREA WAS MOSTLY MANUFACTURED HOMES IN WOODLANDS IN NATURE, IT MAY MAKE THE LOCATION SUITABLE FOR THE PLACEMENT OF A MANUFACTURED HOME.
ON THE PARCEL, POTENTIAL IMPACTS TRAFFIC NONE.
ENVIRONMENTAL AND AESTHETIC CONCERNS NONE.
BUFFER AND SCREENING CONCERNS NONE.
CONCLUSION AND RECOMMENDATIONS BASED ON THE REVIEW OF THE PZ APPLICATION STAFF FINDS THE PLACEMENT OF THE PROPOSED MANUFACTURED HOME TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE PERFORMANCE ZONE DISTRICT CONTINGENT OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S ASSESSMENT OF THE COMPATIBILITY WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL FOR PZ DASH 25 DASH 39.
MR. CORA, IS THERE ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO ADD TO YOUR APPLICATION? NO, SIR.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE IN OPPOSITION TO THIS APPLICATION? OKAY, MA'AM, IF YOU WOULD COME UP TO THE PODIUM.
MS. COKER, IF YOU WOULD JUST STEP, STEP OFF TO THE SIDE FOR A SECOND.
MA'AM, IF YOU WOULD JUST STATE YOUR NAME SO WE CAN GET IT IN THE RECORD.
UM, GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, AND THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
I WANNA START BY SAYING THAT I RESPECT MY NEIGHBOR'S RIGHT TO USE THEIR PROPERTY AS THEY SEE FIT.
HOWEVER, I HAVE SOME SERIOUS CONCERNS ABOUT THE PROPOSAL TO PLACE A MOBILE HOME DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO MY PARCEL IN AN AGRICULTURAL SUBDIVISION, I HAVE 15 ACRES, RIGHT, RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO, UM, 10 92 TROUT.
I'M ON HERRING DRIVE AND MY WOODS BACKUP TO THAT.
UM, WE RAISE ENDANGERED AND RARE POULTRY, UM, ENDANGERED LIVESTOCK AND RARE POULTRY.
AND MY CONCERN IS THE PRESERVATION OF THAT AS WELL AS MY NATIVE WOODLANDS.
AND, UM, WE HAVE THESE, WE HAVE A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON THERE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO PRESERVE.
UM, THE SUBDIVISION WAS, UM, CREATED WITH A SPECIFIC PURPOSE IN MIND.
PRESERVING OPEN SPACE, MAINTAINING LOW DENSITY LAND USE, AND PROTECTING THE AGRICULTURAL CHARACTER OF OUR COMMUNITY.
ALLOWING A MOBILE HOME IN THIS LOCATION CONFLICTS WITH THOSE INTENDED USES WITH THE AESTHETIC STANDARDS OF THE AREA.
AND WITH THE GOAL SET OUT IN OUR ZONING REGULATIONS THAT THE DECISION COULD HAVE A REAL IMPACT ON THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY VALUES.
IT WOULD RAISE RESIDENTIAL DENSITY ABOVE WHAT THE INFRASTRUCTURE WAS DESIGNED TO SUPPORT, AND IT MAY PLACE ADDITIONAL STRAIN ON UTILITIES, EMERGENCY ACCESS AND LONG-TERM MAINTENANCE IN THE SUBDIVISION.
FOR THESE REASONS, I'M ASKING THE COUNCIL TO UPHOLD THE ZONING PRINCIPLES THAT SAFEGUARDS THE CHARACTER.
ALSO OUR PIECE STABILITY AND THE LONG-TERM VALUE OF OUR AGRICULTURAL COMMUNITIES.
THESE STANDARDS, THESE STANDARDS EXIST TO PROTECT ALL OF US, AND I BELIEVE IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE APPLY THEM CONSISTENTLY.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION.
UM, JUST A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR YOU.
UH, YOU, YOU MENTIONED ANIMALS.
OR, OR ARE ANIMALS YOU REFERENCED, ARE THEY IN PENS? ARE THEY, THEY'RE WE HAVE PASTURES AND PADDOCKS THROUGHOUT THE PROPERTY THAT THEY GET ROTATED THROUGH.
IS THE PROPERTY FENCED? IT IS.
THE OTHER THING YOU MENTIONED IS THIS SUBDIVISION.
ARE THERE HOMEOWNER, IS THERE A HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION OR YOU HAVE GUIDELINES THAT WE DON'T HAVE A HOMEOWNERS UM, ASSOCIATION, BUT, UM, I WILL SAY THAT WE HAD A SIMILAR SITUATION WHERE SOMEBODY BUILT RIGHT UP NEXT AGAINST US AND THOUGHT THAT PART OF OUR PROPERTY WAS THEIR PROPERTY.
THEY WERE SHOOTING IN TO THE AREA WHERE MY LIVESTOCK AND MY DOGS AND MY PEACOCKS AND EVERYTHING WERE.
AND, UM, WE HAD TO GET THE LAW INVOLVED.
I WAS NEVER NOTIFIED THAT THEY WERE GONNA BE BUILDING A HOME RIGHT THERE NEXT TO OUR PROPERTY.
UM, AND THE GUN LAWS SAY THAT THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE SHOOTING WITHIN 300 FEET OF A BUILDING, WHICH MY BARN IS RIGHT THERE.
UM, THERE HAVE BEEN FIRES TO CLEAR THESE PROPERTIES AROUND ME.
UM, THEY HAVE NOTIFIED WITH BURN PERMITS TO THE CORRECT, UM, THE CORRECT PEOPLE, I GUESS THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, DEPARTMENT OF FORESTRY.
I'VE HAD LIVESTOCK KILLED BECAUSE OF THE SMOKE IN THE AREA.
WE'RE NOT BEING NOTIFIED OF ALL THESE, THESE BURNINGS AND CLEARINGS OF LAND AROUND US.
AND I'M TAKING THE OPPORTUNITY NOW TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THIS IS GOING ON IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR OVER A YEAR.
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IT'S BEEN GOING OFF OF THIS PROPERTY.THERE WAS, THEY DID DO SOME BURNING, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW THAT WAS HAPPENING.
BUT RIGHT ACROSS FROM THEM AT 1102 TROUT STREET, THEY STARTED A FIRE AND LEFT IT GOING.
AND I HAD TO CALL THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO COME PUT IT OUT BECAUSE IT WAS OUT OF CONTROL.
SAME WITH THE PROPERTY ACROSS ON THE OTHER SIDE ON HERRING DRIVE.
THERE'S 20 ACRES THERE THAT KILLED MY LIVESTOCK THAT ARE RARE THAT I CAN'T REPLACE.
SO I JUST, I NEED TO VOICE THAT.
I'M, I'M KIND OF IN FEAR OF WHAT'S GOING ON AROUND MY PROPERTY.
WELL, WE, WE, UM, I, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND I'M SO SORRY THAT HAPPENED TO YOU, BUT WE DON'T, WE'RE NOT, WE WE'RE NOT THE POLICE UNDERST WHEN IT COMES TO, UM, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
ALL WE ARE CHARGED WITH IS THE APPROVING OR DISAPPROVING, UH, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE GUIDELINES FOR, UM, HOUSING AND, AND THIS TYPE NATURE.
AND, UM, UH, I'M SORRY THAT HAPPENED TO YOU MM-HMM
COMMISSIONERS, YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS YOU'D LIKE TO ASK? HOW MUCH PROPERTY DO YOU HAVE IN THAT AREA? UM, SO THE, IT'S KIND OF CUT UP IN PARCELS, BUT IT'S 15 AND A HALF ACRES ALTOGETHER WITH A POND, WITH WOODLANDS, UM, WITH PASTURES.
UM, AND THEN OF COURSE OUR COOPS AND, UM, THE BEES, THE GARDENS, EVERYTHING.
SO YOU LIVE, YOU LIVE IN THERE AREA? YOU LIVE RIGHT IN THERE? YES, SIR.
I'M TRYING TO PRESERVE THAT AREA AND MAKE IT ACTUALLY A HEALING CENTER AND CONSERVATORY.
UM, SO THAT WE HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THIS IN MANNING FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
BUT HIS PROPERTY IS, IT'S RIGHT ACROSS THE ROAD ON THE BACKSIDE, THERE IS TRADITION, A TRADITIONAL HOME THERE BEFORE IT GOT TORN DOWN AND THEY HAD CHICKEN COOPS THERE AS WELL.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS ORIGINALLY ZONED AS AGRICULTURAL TOO.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WELL, MA'AM, UH, WE, WE, WE, WE HEAR YOUR CONCERNS.
UM, BUT THIS PARTY, UH, THEY'RE NOT THE, THE PARTY THAT YOU HAD ALL THE TROUBLE WITH.
AND SO THAT NOW THAT YOU MORE AWARE, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN PROBABLY ADDRESS THESE, UM, ISSUES, YOU KNOW, BEFORE THEY GET OUTTA HAND.
BUT, UM, THIS IS IN THE PERFORMANCE ZONE AND THEY'RE PUTTING IN THE APPLICATION AND IT'S A PERMISSIBLE USE.
AND, UH, THE RECOMMENDATIONS IS THAT IT BE APPROVED.
BUT THIS, THE RESIDENTIAL, I MEAN, WE CAN'T DENY THIS MAN NOT TO PUT A HOME IN THAT AREA BECAUSE OF, UH, YOU PROPERTY NEXT DOOR AND YOU DON'T, THERE WAS A HOME ON THAT PROPERTY SINCE 1922 AND TERMITES HAVE OVERTAKEN IT, SO WE TORE IT DOWN.
WE WOULD LIKE TO PUT SOMETHING NEW THERE.
SO THAT'S BEEN A RESIDENTIAL LOT FOR A HUNDRED YEARS PLUS.
OKAY, MR. COCO, COULD YOU STEP BACK TO THE PODIUM? YOU MENTIONED THERE WAS A HOMEOWNER DEATH SINCE 1922.
UM, WAS IT ON THE TAX MAP? YES.
DID YOU OBTAIN A DEMOLITION PERMIT, SIR, SIR, WHEN IT WAS TORN DOWN? YES, SIR.
I'M NOT SURE THAT'S WHERE THE EMPLOYEES STAYED.
QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS, COMMISSIONERS, WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE WITH, UH, THIS APPLICATION? MR. CHAIRMAN, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT PZ DASH 20 25 39, HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GAMBLE TO APPROVE, UH, UM, PZ 25 39, AND HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER DURANT.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED? AND THE AYES HAVE IT.
YOU CAN PICK UP YOUR PERMIT, UH, DURING THE DAY FRIDAY, FOLKS.
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NEXT ON OUR LIST IS, UM, PZ DASH.I'D LIKE TO COMMENT ON THERE IF I CAN.
ARE, ARE YOU WANTING TO SPEAK IN IF THE YOU I LIVE 1190 TROUT AVENUE.
ARE, ARE YOU WANTING 1194 TROUT AVENUE? ARE YOU WANTING TO I TAKE NO ISSUES WITH THEM PUTTING A MANUFACTURER HOME ON THEIR PROPERTY.
ANY QUESTIONS? I CAN'T HEAR YOU, BUT MAYBE MY WIFE CAN TELL YOU.
SHE, SHE, SHE'S GIVING ME SIGN LANGUAGE.
UM, NEXT ON OUR LIST IS PZ DASH 25 DASH 41 JAQUAN NELSON.
HEY, WHEN YOU GET TO THE PODIUM, WOULD YOU STATE YOUR NAME TO THE LADIES OVER HERE SO THEY CAN PUT IT IN THE RECORD? HEY, YES.
OKAY, MS. ABONY WILL, UM, UH, READ US THE APPLICATION.
THE ATTACHED PERFORMANCE ZONE APPLICATION HAS BEEN SUBMITTED FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEW BY JAYQUAN NELSON.
MR. NELSON IS REQUESTING THE ZONING CERTIFICATION TO PERMIT THE PLACEMENT OF A MANUFACTURED HOME ON A PARCEL LOCATED AT 1331 LUKE GODWIN SUMMERTON, SOUTH CAROLINA.
THE PZ APPLICATION AND SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS ARE ATTACHED FOR YOUR REVIEW.
THE SUBJECT PARCEL IS LOCATED IN THE PERFORMANCE ZONE DISTRICT OF CLARITON COUNTY.
A MANUFACTURING HOME IS A PERMITTED USE IN THE PEASY DISTRICT, SUBJECT TO ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT REQUIREMENTS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION MAY IMPOSE TO ENSURE THAT SUCH USE IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS.
THE SUBJECT PARCEL IS APPROXIMATELY 8.5 ACRES AND SIZE.
THE PROPOSED MANUFACTURED HOME WILL BE SERVICED BY A PRIVATE WELL AND SEPTIC SYSTEM.
THE SURROUNDING AREA PRIMARILY CONSISTS OF WOODLAND STICK BUILT HOMES AND MANUFACTURED HOMES.
THE IMMEDIATE VICINITY INCLUDES ONE STICK BUILT HOME, TWO TWO STICK BUILT HOMES AND WOODLANDS.
THE PARCEL IS LOCATED NEAR THE STATE HIGHWAY, WHICH MAY PROVIDE SUFFICIENT ACCESS FOR THE PLACEMENT OF A MANUFACTURED HOME.
BASED ON THE STAFF'S OBSERVATION, THE SURROUNDING AREAS PREDOMINANTLY A AGRICULTURAL AREA, WOODLAND IN NATURE WOULD STICK BUILT HOMES IN MANUFACTURED HOMES.
THE PROPOSED USE MAY BE COMPATIBLE IF IT DOES NOT NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE CHARACTER OF SURROUNDING AREAS.
WHILE THE SURROUNDING AREAS IS PREDOMINANTLY A RURAL AREA, AGRICULTURAL AREA, WOODLANDS IN NATURE WITH STICK BUILT HOMES AND MANUFACTURED HOMES, IT MAY MAKE THE LOCATION SUITABLE FOR THE PLACEMENT OF A MANUFACTURED HOME.
ON THE PARCEL POTENTIAL IMPACTS TRAFFIC NONE.
ENVIRONMENTAL AND AESTHETIC CONCERNS NONE BUFFERING AND SCREENING CONCERNS NONE.
CONCLUSION AND RECOMMENDATIONS BASED ON A REVIEW OF THE PZ APPLICATION STAFF FINDS THE PLACEMENT FOR THE PROPOSED MANUFACTURED HOME TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE PZ DISTRICT CONTINGENT THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S ASSESSMENT OF ITS COMPATIBILITY WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF PZ DASH 25 DASH 41.
MR. NELSON, IS THERE ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO ADD TO YOUR APPLICATION? NO, SIR.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE IN OPPOSITION TO THIS APPLICATION?
COMMISSIONERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. NELSON? THIS IS A NEW YES.
HAVE A, HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER DURANT AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER POSTEL TO APPROVE, UH, PC 25 41.
ANY OPPOSED? AND AYES HAVE IT, YOU CAN PICK, COME BY THE OFFICE ON FRIDAY AND PICK UP YOUR PERMIT.
FRANK JONES, JUST STATE YOUR NAME TO THE LATEST SO THEY CAN, FRANK JOHN, GINA, AND MS. MS. ABETT WILL READ THE APPLICATION.
THE ATTACHMENT VOMIT ZONE APPLICATION HAS BEEN SUBMITTED FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEW BY FRANK FB JONES.
MR. JONES IS REQUESTING A ZONING CERTIFICATION OF 250 SITE RV PARK WITH STORAGE ONSITE OFFICE RETAIL IN A KITCHEN ON THE PARCEL LOCATED NEAR HIGHWAY TWO 60 MANNING SOUTH CAROLINA.
THE PC APPLICATION AND SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS ARE
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ATTACHED FOR YOUR REVIEW.THE SUBJECT PARCEL IS LOCATED IN THE PERFORMANCE ZONE DISTRICT OF CLAIRTON COUNTY, A RV PARK OR STORAGE ONSITE OFFICE AND RETAIL.
AND A KITCHEN IS A PERMITTED USE IN THE PZ DISTRICT.
SUBJECT TO ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT REQUIREMENTS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION MAY IMPOSE TO ENSURE THAT SUCH USE IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE SUBJECT PARCEL IS APPROXIMATELY 31.6 ACRES IN SIZE.
THE PROPOSED BUSINESS WILL BE SERVICED BY CLATON COUNTY PUBLIC WATER AND SEWER SYSTEM.
THE SURROUNDING AREAS PREDOMINANTLY CONSISTS OF WOODLANDS, THE LAKE, A FIRE STATION, A CONVENIENT STORE, AND A DOLLAR GENERAL STORE NEAR A STATE HIGHWAY, WHICH MAY PROVIDE SUFFICIENT ACCESS FOR THE BASEMENT OF A RV PARK OR STORAGE, ONSITE OFFICE RETAIL AND A KITCHEN.
BASED ON THE STAFF'S OBSERVATION, THE SURROUNDING AREAS PER PRIMARILY WOODLAND IN NATURE AND NEAR THE LAKE, THE PROPOSED USE MAY BE COMPATIBLE IF IT DOES NOT NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE CHARACTER OF THE SURROUNDING AREA.
WHILE THE SURROUNDING AREAS IS PREDOMINANTLY WOODLANDS IN NATURE NEAR THE LAKE, IT MAY MAKE THE LOCATION SUITABLE FOR RV PARKER'S STORAGE ON SITE OFF HIS RETAIL, IN THE KITCHEN, ON THE PROPERTY.
POTENTIAL IMPACTS GIVEN THE NATURE OF THE PROPOSED USE, STAFF RECOMMENDS EVALUATING POTENTIAL INCREASE IN TRAFFIC, ENVIRONMENTAL, AND AESTHETIC CONCERNS.
STAFF RECOMMENDS EVALUATING POTENTIAL EFFECTS OF NOISE AND LIGHTING BUFFERING AND SCREENING TO MITIGATE POTENTIAL VISUAL AND NOISE IMPACT APPROPRIATE BUFFERING SUCH AS LANDSCAPE MAY BE REQUIRED TO ENSURE THAT THE RV PARK WITH STORAGE DOES NOT NEGATIVELY AFFECT THE PROPERTIES NEARBY.
CONCLUSION AND RECOMMENDATIONS BASED ON THE REVIEW OF THE PC APPLICATION STAFF FINDS THE PLACEMENT OF THE PROPOSED RV PARK AND STORAGE ON SITE OFFICE, RETAIL AND KITCHEN TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE PERFORMANCE ZONE DISTRICT CONTINGENT THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION ASSESSMENT OF ITS COMPATIBILITY WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL FOR 20 PZ DASH 25 DASH 42.
MR. JONES, ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO ADD TO YOUR APPLICATION? NO, SIR.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE IN, WE HAVE A LETTER THAT WAS SENT TO US IN OPPOSITION AND MS. TABITHA, OUR DIRECTOR, WILL READ THAT AT THIS TIME, MR. CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSIONERS, UM, WE RECEIVED A LETTER, UM, ON NOVEMBER THE 10TH, AND THE SUBJECT IS, UM, NOVEMBER THE 18TH, 2025 PZ DASH 25 DASH 42.
AND IT STATES, DEAR COMMISSIONERS, AS OWNER OF DOLLAR GENERAL STORE ACROSS FROM THE ACROSS THE STREET, ARE MOST INTERESTED IN THE STORAGE BUSINESS COMPONENT OF THIS ZONING CHANGE PROPOSAL.
WHAT TYPE OF STORAGE WILL BE ALLOWED? BOTH OR RV STORAGE, MEANING WAREHOUSE STORAGE, WHERE WOULD IT BE PLACED ON THE PROPERTY AND HOW WOULD THE STORAGE FACILITY BE LANDSCAPED OR SHIELD FROM HIGHWAY TWO 60? HOW MANY SQUARE FEET WOULD THE SIZE LIMIT OF THE, FOR THE STORAGE BUSINESS? THANK YOU IN ADVANCE.
BROWN RIDGE, UM, FROM POLICE ALLEN.
UM, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE IN OPPOSITION TO THIS APPLICATION? COMMISSIONERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? UM, THE ZONING, THIS IS ONLY FOR, RIGHT, RIGHT? MM-HMM
SO THE GROUP, I MEAN THE INFORMATION YOU FROM THE, FROM THE, SO, UM, YOU WILLING TO, YOU, YOU, YOU WILLING TO DO FOLLOW THOSE, UM, IN DIRECTION THAT THEY WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO DO? I, I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS.
IF YOU WANT TO READ 'EM OUT, I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER 'EM.
I I DON'T KNOW THAT I AGREE TO FOLLOW 'EM, BUT I'LL AGREE TO ANSWER THEM.
THAT'S MOSTLY WHAT THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT.
YEAH, AND I THINK WE ARE EQUALLY CONCERNED ON A, ON A PERFORMANCE END FOR THAT PROPERTY, UM, THAT WE WILL CREATE AN ADEQUATE BUCKET BUFFER BETWEEN THERE AND HIGHWAY TWO 60.
UM, THE NATURE OF THE PROPERTY IS, UM, A BIT PRIVATE AND WE DON'T, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT, WE DON'T WANT
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IT RIGHT NEXT TO THE ROAD EITHER.UM, I THINK OUR BUFFER WOULD TEND TO END AT A VEGETATION TYPE OF BUFFER.
UM, THERE WILL BE LIKELY SOME INTERNAL FENCING, BUT IT WON'T BE FENCING.
I WOULDN'T THINK IT'D BE MORE OF A VEGETATIVE JUST FROM AN AESTHETIC STANDPOINT.
AND AS FOR, YOU KNOW, THE, I THINK THERE WAS SOME SIZE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE STORAGE.
OBVIOUSLY WE WOULD BE UNDER WHATEVER WAS ALLOWED BY THE PEASY ZONE, UM, AND LEAVE OURSELVES OPEN FOR WHAT IS PERMITTED IN THERE AS TO WHAT WE STORE THE KITCHEN, WHAT KIND OF KITCHEN GO.
SO, UM, IT'S FAIRLY TYPICAL IN, UH, A PARK THAT SIZE TO HAVE A SNACK BAR TYPE OF KITCHEN.
UM, NOT A FULL BLOWN SIT DOWN RESTAURANT, MORE OF A, UM, A TAKEOUT SLASH TO GO SNACK BAR TYPE OF THING.
AND THEN YOU HAVE RETAIL OTHER THAN THE KITCHEN.
UM, IT'S PRETTY TYPICAL TO HAVE AN OFFICE ENVIRONMENT FOR THE ADMINISTRATION OF THE RENTALS.
AND THEN THE RETAIL ENVIRONMENT WOULD, UM, PROBABLY IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE BE A LITTLE BIT LESS BECAUSE YOU DO HAVE DOLLAR GENERAL ACROSS THE ROAD, BUT SOMETIMES THESE PROPERTIES END UP IN A MORE RURAL ENVIRONMENT AND THEY HAVE A NECESSITIES TYPE OF RETAIL SHOP.
UM, IN THIS CASE IT WILL PROBABLY BE ON A LIMITED FASHION.
JUST DOESN'T MAKE A LOT OF SENSE WITH DOLLAR GENERAL.
ACROSS THE, WELL, YOUR APPLICATION, YOU INDICATED THAT, UM, UH, THERE WOULD BE A NEED, UH, TO PURCHASE SEWER CAPACITY.
UM, AND I KNOW YOU HAVEN'T PROBABLY GOTTEN THAT FAR YET BECAUSE WE ARE ONLY CONSIDERING ZONING AND YOU WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK WITH AN ENGINEERED PLAN.
UM, UM, AND I GUESS THAT'S A HURDLE YOU WOULD CROSS AT A LATER DATE.
ARE WE LOOKING TO CROSS THIS ONE AND THEN NOW ONE? YES, SIR.
I MAKE A MOTION APPROVE THE VOTING FOR BETWEEN 25 42.
SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER DURANT TO APPROVE, UH, THE PC 25 42 AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GAMBLE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
UH, ANY OPPOSED? AND YOUR APPLICATION IS APPROVED.
NEXT ON OUR AGENDA IS, IS, UH, Z 25 0 2 SIDNEY PLAYER.
SO WHAT IF YOU ALL DECIDE TO DO THIS, COMMISSIONER, THIS IS THE SECOND TIME THAT THIS HAS COME BEFORE US WITH, UH, NO PARTICIPATION.
WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE? MR. CHAIRMAN? I WILL MAKE THIS STATEMENT.
A REPRESENTATIVE DID CONTACT THE OFFICE THIS AFTERNOON AND STATED THAT THEY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO ATTEND, UM, THIS EVENING.
UM, DUE TO THAT THEY DID NOT HAVE THE NECESSARY PLANS, BUT I INFORMED THEM THAT WE'RE NOT AT THAT STAGE.
WE'RE ONLY THING WE'RE HERE BEFORE YOU ALL THIS EVENING IS JUST FOR THE ZONING AMENDMENT APPROVAL.
AND THEY SAID THAT THEY WERE TRYING TO MAKE IT HERE, BUT UNFORTUNATELY THEY'RE NOT HERE.
AND IF WE, UM, OH, YOU YOU WANNA SPEAK ON IT? OH, OH YEAH, THERE.
JUST HOLD ON ONE SECOND PLEASE, MA'AM.
IF WEERS, SINCE THIS IS THE SECOND TIME THAT, UH, THIS APPLICANT IS, UH, NOT, UM, BEEN HERE IN PERSON, UM, UH, MR. CHAIRMAN, LEMME JUST SEE COURT OF ORDER HERE.
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YOU KNOW, THE COMMISSION'S ROLE IN A REZONING IS TO, TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL, TO COUNTY COUNCIL.SO THIS IS, IF THIS WERE A PZ APPLICATION OKAY.
WHERE YOU WERE KIND OF THE FINAL SAY, SO TO SPEAK, THEN I THINK IT'S, IN THAT CASE, IT'S PROBABLY PROCEDURALLY APPROPRIATE IF THE APPLICANT DOESN'T SHOW UP TO SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES, FOR YOU TO MAKE THE DECISION THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE ESSENTIALLY DENYING 'EM FOR LACK OF INFORMATION HERE.
HOWEVER, UM, IF YOU, IF YOU DO NOT MAKE A RECOMMENDATION FROM ONE, ONE WAY OR ANOTHER TO COUNTY COUNCIL, THEN YOU ARE DEEMED TO HAVE RECOMMENDED APPROVAL AND IT, IT, IT DOES AT SOME POINT NEED TO MOVE ON TO COUNTY COUNCIL.
SO I WOULD SUGGEST, PARTICULARLY IN THIS CASE, IF, IF MAYBE THE APPLICANT DIDN'T FULLY UNDERSTAND UNTIL TODAY, EXCUSE ME, WHAT THEIR, HOW THEY NEEDED TO PREPARE FOR THIS, PERHAPS TABLING IT ONE MORE TIME.
GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME BACK IN FRONT OF YOU SO THAT YOU CAN ACTUALLY MAKE A FULLY INFORMED RECOMMENDATION TO COUNTY COUNCIL AT SOME POINT.
THIS DOES HAVE TO PROCEED ON TO COUNTY COUNCIL AND I THINK YOU SHOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE A, A INFORMED RECOMMENDATION.
OKAY, COMMISSIONER, YOU, YOU'VE HEARD, UH, FROM OUR ATTORNEY CD, UH, UH, UH, WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS BETWEEN A, A PZ AND A REQUEST AND A ZA ZONING QUEST REQUEST.
AND IF WE TABLE IT, IT GIVES A APPLICANT AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME BACK BEFORE US.
UH, WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE? SO IF WE TABLE IT, WE GOTTA WAIT UNITED DAYS OR HOW LONG? NO.
SO IF YOU TABLE IT, THEN IT WOULD BE JUST TABLED UNTIL YOUR NEXT MEETING.
UH, AND THEY COME BACK IN FRONT OF YOU AT THAT POINT IN TIME.
AND, AND PRESUMABLY AT THAT POINT THEY WOULD KNOW THAT THEY AREN'T BEING ASKED TO PROVIDE PLANS OR ANYTHING ELSE.
IT IS JUST TO TALK ABOUT THE ZONING OF THE PROJECT.
WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE, COMMISSIONER? SO HAVE A HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GAMBLE TO TABLE THIS REQUEST.
HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER PASTEL.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, ALL IN FAVORS SAY AYE FROM THREE TIMES.
SO WE CAN, THAT'S, I SAID, UM, CAN WE GIVE BEFORE WE ACTUALLY VOTE, SHE'S HERE.
SEE THEY, THE, THE, THE LADY THAT'S HERE IN OPPOSITION, UM, CAN WE GIVE HER OPPORTUNITY TO VOICE HER CONCERN DECISIONING SINCE SHE'S HERE BEFORE WE VOTE? YOU CERTAINLY CAN.
MA'AM, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE COME FORWARD.
IF YOU WOULD JUST, JUST TELL THE LADIES YOUR NAME SO THEY CAN MAGGIE DAVIS.
THEY, MY MOM LIVED DIRECTLY IN FRONT FROM THAT PARTICULAR PROPERTY THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO, UM, I GUESS MOVE FROM RESIDENTIAL TO, WHAT IS IT? AGRICULTURE FROM A GI TO MAKE IT TO, TO RC.
IT'S GOING TO WHERE? IT'S GOING TO RESIDENTIAL.
SO LOOKING IT FROM AGRICULTURE TO RESIDENTIAL.
BUT THE PROPO, WELL, I I'M IN, I WAS INFORMED THAT IS TOWN HOMES THAT ARE BEING PUT THERE, PLACED THERE, TRYING TO BE PUT THERE.
SO THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE, THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE ON THAT STREET ARE ELDERLY.
AND MY THING WOULD BE, UM, I WOULD HAVE MORE QUESTIONS I GUESS BECAUSE IF YOU'RE GONNA PUT TOWN HOMES THERE, THEY, THEY LIVE WHERE, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY KNOWS EVERYBODY.
THE, THEY CAN LEAVE THE DOOR UNLOCKED RIGHT NOW AND NOT BE, YOU KNOW, CONCERNED.
THEY, THEY LOOK OUT FOR EACH OTHER.
AND IF THEY PUT TOWN HOMES THERE, I WOULD WANT TO KNOW LIKE, WHO ARE THEY? WHO ARE THEY, WHO'S GONNA BE LIVING IN THOSE TOWN HOMES? HOW MANY TOWN HOMES? UM, IT WOULD BE SAFETY.
THAT PROPERTY IS DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF HER HOME.
THE HOME, THE RE THE PROPERTY THAT'S ADJACENT TO IT, MR. WILLARD WOODFIELD OWNS, HE IS, HE'S ALSO 70, BUT HE OWNS, HE HAS 49 ACRES.
THAT'S I DIRECTLY ATTACHED TO THAT PROPERTY.
AND WE SENT IN INFORMATION FROM
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LETTERS AND IT WAS 12 RESIDENTS ALSO THAT STATED THEY DISAGREE.I FAXED IN BY ME THAT CONFIRMATION.
SO MY QUESTION WAS, WHO'S REPRESENTING THE HOMEOWNERS THAT, THAT IS A POLICE? YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND YOU GUYS HAVE A JOB AND SAY YAY.
AND THEY, AT THE END OF THE DAY, BUT WHO'S REPRESENTING THE HOMEOWNERS? WHO'S OPPOSING? I LIVE IN GEORGIA.
I GOT OFF WORK, DROVE DOWN HERE TO REPRESENT MY MOM.
SO THOSE ARE THE QUESTIONS I WOULD HAVE.
UM, WHO'S REPRESENTING THE OTHER HOMEOWNERS? THE HOMEOWNERS THAT ARE OPPOSED.
UM, WELL WE AS A COMMISSION DON'T REPRESENT, WE REPRESENT EVERYONE.
OKAY? UM, YOU KNOW, NOT FAR AGAINST, WE, WE, WE, WE, WE ARE BOUND BY NEUTRALITY.
OKAY? AND SO, UH, OUR, UM, REVIEW IS BASED ON THE CURRENT GUIDELINES THAT ARE, THAT ARE ON THE COUNTY BOOKS AND, AND WHAT'S ALLOWED AND WHAT'S NOT ALLOWED IN CERTAIN AREAS.
UM, AND SO, UM, LIKE I SAY, WE AS A COMMISSION DON'T REPRESENT THE HOMEOWNERS.
WE, WELL, WE, WE REPRESENT EVERYONE, INCLUDING THE FOLKS THAT WANT TO, YOU KNOW, PUT THE TOWN HALL.
OKAY? UH, WE, WE CAN'T TAKE SILENCE, OKAY? UM, UH, EITHER WAY, UH, NO MATTER WHAT OUR PERSONAL OPINIONS ARE.
SO BASICALLY LIKE WHEN YOU GUYS SEND OUT THE LETTERS, APPROVE, DISAPPROVE, RIGHT? IT DOESN'T MATTER AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S JUST BASICALLY WHAT THE COMMITTEE REPRESENTS.
OUR VOTES, IF THE PROPERTY IS, IS, IS A LOT FOR THAT TYPE OF BUILDING OR WHATEVER.
ONLY THING WE CAN DO IS GO BY WHAT THE COUNTY ALLOW US TO APPROVE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, NEXT DOOR WHO PROPERTY.
I MEAN, WE, WE CAN'T, UH, GET SIDE WITH THE OWNERS THAT LIVE THERE, YOU KNOW, SAYING, WELL, YOU KNOW, THIS GUY, THIS PERSON CAN'T MOVE IN THAT, ON THAT PROPERTY BECAUSE THE HOMEOWNERS OVER HERE DON'T WANT THAT IN THEIR AREA OR WHATEVER.
YOU KNOW, WE JUST CAN'T, UM, DENY THIS PERSON.
BUT I MEAN, YOU GOT, WELL, LAWYER
WELL, WELL MA'AM, UM, IF I MAY SAY SO, UM, THIS IS, UH, APPLICATION IS PERMITTED FOR A ZONE CHANGE FROM AGRICULTURAL ONE TO, UH, RESIDENTIAL CONSERVATION.
SO THERE'S SOME MORE STEPS, OKAY? AND THE OTHER PARTY IS NOT WITH US TONIGHT.
HOWEVER, UH, YOU RECEIVED AN OPPORTUNITY.
ALL I COULD SUGGEST, IF YOU WANT A FURTHER PURSUIT, IT AIN'T OVER YET MM-HMM
UM, BUT I THINK THAT WE GONNA RECOMMEND THAT WE TABLE THIS UNTIL, UH, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY CAN GET WHERE THEY NEED TO BE.
BUT JUST, I'M SURE THE, THE PLANNING OFFICE WILL SEND YOUR MOTHER, UM, INFORMATION AS TO THE UPCOMING EVENTS ON THIS.
AND, UM, SO I HOPE THAT WE, UH, GAVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF CLARITY AND JUST PURSUE, CONTINUE TO PURSUE.
BUT WE ARE BOUND BY THE ORDINANCE THAT HAS ALREADY UNDER LAW IN THIS COUNTY ON THE BOOKS.
OKAY? I HOPE THAT THAT GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF, I MEAN IT GAVE ME CLARITY AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, OKAY.
BUT I MEAN, LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU GUYS SENT OUT THE LETTERS, IT SAYS APPROVE OR DISAPPROVE, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? LIKE YOU SAID, WE ARE NEUTRAL, WE JUST GOTTA GO BY THE ORDINANCE.
AND, UM, BUT CONTINUE, I WOULD SAY CONTINUE TO PURSUE MY RECOMMENDATION TOO IS THE FIRST, UM, LETTER I GOT THIS, THIS MEETING ABOUT THE MEETING.
I DIDN'T GET IT, BUT I, I SPOKE WITH SOMEONE IN YOU GUYS' OFFICE AND TOLD ME TO GO BY THE, THE WEBSITE, BUT I DIDN'T GET THE LETTER THE FIRST, THE SECOND TIME THIS FOR THIS MEETING, MY NEIGHBOR GOT HERS AND THAT'S HOW I WAS ABLE TO MAKE IT TO THIS ONE.
I MISSED THE FIRST ONE, BUT I DID, WE GOT, UM, WE FAXED THROUGH OUR INFORMATION IN, SO PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU GUYS SENT ANOTHER ONE
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SO WE CAN COME BACK.UM, DO WE, WE GOT A, I HAD A MOTION BY, UM, COMMISSIONER GAMBLE AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER COSTEL TO TABLE THIS, UH, REQUEST, UH, ALL THE
NEXT ON OUR AGENDA IS, IS, UH, A ZONING REQUEST, UH, DASH 25 DASH OH THREE.
MR. PETER THOMPSON, JUST STATE YOUR NAME PLEASE, SIR.
TO THE LADIES STAFF PETER THOMPSON.
AND MS. TABITHA IS GONNA, UH, SHARE WHAT THIS DIS UH, UH, STAFF REPORT.
UM, MR. PETER THOMPSON HAS REQUESTED AN AMENDMENT TO THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP ADOPTED ON SEPTEMBER THE 12TH, 2022 TO REZONE A 2.0 ACRE PARCEL, LOCATED ON ALEX HAR HIGHWAY NEAR THE INTERSTATE NINE FIVE INTERCHANGE FROM AGRICULTURE TWO TO GENERAL COMMERCIAL.
THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY UNDEVELOPED AND WAS PREVIOUSLY USED FOR LOW INTENSITY AGRICULTURAL PURPOSES.
THE APPLICANT INTENDS TO ESTABLISH A RECREATIONAL VEHICLE, RV AND CAMPER SALES LOT, WHICH IS NOT A PERMITTED USE IN THE AGRICULTURAL TWO DISTRICT, BUT IS ALLOWABLE IN A GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT UNDER THE CLATON COUNTY UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE.
GIVEN THE, THE PARCEL PRO TO THE INTERSTATE INTERCHANGE, ITS VISIBILITY AND ACCESS ALONG A PRIMARY TRANSPORTATION CORRIDOR AND THE NEARBY INDUSTRIAL ZONING AND ACTIVITY.
THE PROPOSED USE ALIGNS WITH THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS ANTICIPATED FOR THIS AREA IN THE COMPREHENSIVE FUTURE LAND USE GUIDANCE, A COPY OF THE ORDINANCE TO REZONE THE PROPERTY IS ATTACHED FOR YOUR REVIEW ALONG WITH THE LOCATION MAP IDENTIFIED AS EXHIBIT A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CONSISTENCY.
THE CLAREY COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ADOPTED ON DECEMBER 10TH, 2018 IDENTIFIES THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AS RURAL AGRICULTURAL TRANSITIONING TO HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL NEAR THE INTERSTATE.
THE REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND SUPPORTS SEVERAL LONG-TERM GOALS AND OBJECTIVES, INCLUDING GOAL ONE, ESTABLISH SUSTAINABLE AND EFFICIENT GROWTH THAT PRESERVES CLATON COUNTY'S CHARACTER WHILE PROMOTING STRATEGIC ECONOMIC EXPANSION.
OBJECTIVE 1.3, DIRECT COMMERCIAL GROWTH TOWARDS MAJOR TRANSPORTATION CORRIDORS AND THOSE CAPABLE OF ACCOMMODATING INCREASED TRAFFIC AND INFRASTRUCTURE DEMANDS.
GOAL THREE, FOSTER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.
OBJECTIVE 3.2, ENCOURAGE COMMERCIAL AND TOURISM RELATED ENTERPRISES NEAR INTERSTATE INTERCHANGES AND KEY TRAVEL ROUTES TO EXPAND THE COUNTY'S ECONOMIC BASE.
THE PROPOSED RB CAMPER SALES LOT USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THESE OBJECTIVES, SUPPORTING ECONOMIC DIVERSIFICATION, HIGHWAY ORIENTED BUSINESS GROWTH AND EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES IN A LOCATION PLAN FOR COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL TRANSITION COMPATIBILITY WITH THE LAND USES IN THE SURROUNDING AREA.
THE SUBJECT PARCEL IS SITUATED IN AN AREA EXPERIENCING GRADUAL TRANSITION FOR RURAL AGRICULTURE USES TO MORE INTENSIVE COMMERCIAL AND LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ACTIVITY.
THE NORTH OF THE PROPERTY IS RURAL RESIDENTIAL, UNDEVELOPED AGRICULTURAL PARCELS WITHIN AGRICULTURE.
SOUTH OF THE PARCEL IS LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AND WAREHOUSE TYPE USES NEAR THE INTERCHANGE.
ZONED INDUSTRIAL EAST OF THE PROPERTY IS 95 RIGHT OF WAY ASSOCIATED ACCESS INFRASTRUCTURE.
THE WEST OF THE PROPERTY IS SCATTERED RESIDENTIAL LOTS AND UNDEVELOPED TRACKS AND AGRICULTURE TO ZONING THE NEARBY AGRICULTURAL.
UM, THE NEARBY INDUSTRIAL ZONING AND ESTABLISHED COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY INDICATES A TREND TOWARDS MORE EMPLOYMENT BASED AND SERVICE ORIENTED USE, COMPATIBLE WITH THE PROPOSED GENERAL COMMERCIAL DESIGNATION.
THE RV CAMPER SALES LOT WILL SERVE AS AN APPROPRIATE TRANSITIONAL USE BETWEEN AGRICULTURAL AND INDUSTRIAL PROPERTIES, PROVIDING A VISUAL CONTINUITY AND ECONOMIC SYNERGY ALONG A ALEX HARVIN.
HOW COURT PROPER BUFFERING AND SITE DESIGN CONSISTENT WITH THE UDC REQUIREMENTS WILL ENSURE THAT THE PROPOSED USE REMAINS COMPATIBLE WITH NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES AND DOES NOT ADVERSELY AFFECT EXISTING RESIDENTS OR AGRICULTURAL
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TRACKS.STAFF ANALYSIS AND FINDINGS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE SECTION 91 OF THE CLATON COUNTY UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE, THE PLANNING COMMISSION SHOULD BASE THIS RECOMMENDATION ON THE FOLLOWING FINDINGS OF FACT NEED AND APPROPRIATENESS.
THE SITE LOCATION THERE, THE INTERSTATE NINE FIVE IS ADJACENT TO EXISTING COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL AREAS, MAKING IT APPROPRIATE FOR HIGHWAY ORIENTED SERVICES.
THIS REQUEST ALIGNS WITH THE COUNTY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHICH ENCOURAGES COMMERCIAL GROWTH AND MIXED USE TRANSITIONS ALONG WITH MAJOR CORRIDORS AND INTERSTATE INTERCHANGE AREAS.
THE PROPOSED GENERAL COMMERCIAL ZONING COMPLEMENT SURROUNDING INDUSTRIAL AND TRANSITIONAL USES AND WILL NOT CONFLICT WITH THE EXISTING RURAL LANDSCAPE WHEN DEVELOPED PER COUNTY STANDARDS INFRASTRUCTURE, ADEQUATE TRANSPORTATION ACCESS AND UTILITY INFRASTRUCTURE EXISTS OR CAN BE REASONABLY EXTENDED TO SUPPORT THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT PROCEEDED.
THE REZONING ALIGNS WITH SIMILAR COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL EXPANSIONS APPROVED ALONG ALEX HAR HIGHWAY I 95.
COURT RECOMMENDATION BASED ON THE ANALYSIS ABOVE, IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 91 OF THE CLATON COUNTY UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE, STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE ZONING MAP AMENDMENT FROM AGRICULTURAL TWO TO GENERAL COMMERCIAL FOR THE 2.0 ACRE PARCEL FOR APPLICANT PETER THOMPSON.
THE REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH THE CLAN COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND FUTURE LAND USE MAP, WHICH SUPPORT COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL GROWTH NEAR INTERSTATE CORRIDORS.
THE PROPOSED USE SERVES AS A COMPATIBLE TRANSITIONAL LAND USE BETWEEN AGRICULTURAL AND INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICTS.
THE DEVELOPMENT WILL ENHANCE ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITIES AND CAPITALIZE ON SITES STRATEGIC LOCATION NEAR THE INTERSTATE.
MR. THOMPSON, IS THERE ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO ADD TO YOUR APPLICATION? UH, NOT AT THIS MOMENT, SIR.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE IN OPPOSITION TO THIS APPLICATION? HEARING NONE.
COMMISSIONERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. THOMPSON TO WAIT.
WILL THIS BE NEW RV CAMPERS OR USED AND USED SLIGHT, SLIGHTLY USED? YES, SIR.
IF I CAN BUY 'EM FOR A GOOD DEAL, I'LL PUT A NEW ONE ON THERE.
RIGHT? WOULD THIS BE THE ONLY LOCATION? YES, SIR.
COMMISSIONERS, WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE? WE'VE GOT A LOT OF WORK IN THIS, UH, STAFF.
THIS IS RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL.
I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE RECOMMEND TO COUNCIL PROJECT Z 25 0 3.
HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GAMBLE TO APPROVE.
IS THERE A SECOND? HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER DURANT.
UH, ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED? AND AYES A, UM, APPROVE FOR RECORD RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL.
IT'S APPROVED FOR RECOMMENDATION TO COUNTY COUNCIL.
[VI. Executive Session-Legal Advice (If needed)]
WE TAKE UP OUR NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA, GENTLEMEN, UM, WE NEED TO, UM, UH, GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR LEGAL ADVICE, HOW TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION THAT WE, WE, UH, GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.SO MOVED, HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER DURANT, I MEAN JOHNSON, AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER PASTEL.
UM, AND WE IN EXECUTIVE SESSION, WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.
IS THERE ANY KIND OF PAPERWORK I GOTTA PICK OFF FOR? OKAY.
UH, MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE THAT, UH, WE MOVE FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION SECOND, RIGHT THIS SESSION, NO ACTION TAKEN.
WE HAVE A MOTION TO COME OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION BY COMMISSIONER JOHNSON, A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER PASTEL.
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AYE.ANY OPPOSED? AND AYES WE'RE BACK IN REGULAR SESSION.
[V. NEW BUSINESS (Part 2 of 2)]
ON OUR AGENDA IS SP 25 DASH OH ONE, ROBERTO LOPEZ, DAVIS, MCNAIR, AND MS. UH, IS THERE ANYONE HERE REPRESENTING A NOTE? UH, MS. TABITHA HANNAH, OUR DIRECTOR, IS GONNA, UH, SHARE WITH US THE, UH, INFORMATION ON THE, UH, SITE PLAN, STAFF REPORT.THE APPLICATION FOR THE SITE PLAN WILL BE TABLED FOR MR. LOPEZ PENDING APPROVAL FOR THE PERFORMANCE ZONE APPLICATION, WHICH WILL BE HEARD BEFORE YOU ALL ON DECEMBER THE 16TH OR SHORTLY AFTER.
UM, I SPOKE WITH THE DEVELOPER AND HE UNDERSTANDS THIS INITIATIVE AND HE WILL, HE HAS RECEIVED THE APPLICATION FOR THE PERFORMANCE ZONE CERTIFICATE, AND HE WILL BE SUBMITTING THAT IN TO ME AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
UM, UH, SINCE THAT APPLICATION IS NOT GOING TO BE CONSIDERED THIS EVENING, UM, ALL, ANY, UH, ANY COMMENT WILL BE IN DECEMBER.
I JUST MAKE ONE COMMENT DURING OUR MEETING.
UM, STEP UP TO THE PODIUM AND, UM, STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE LADIES AND, UM, MY NAME IS EDMUNDS BROWN.
UM, I'VE WANTED TO, OBVIOUSLY I'M THE ONLY ONE LEFT STANDING AT THIS POINT.
UM, BUT WE HAD FOUND OUT FROM MS. TABATHA EARLIER THAT, UM, IT WAS GOING TO BE AN INFORMATION ONLY AND THAT THE, IT WAS GOING TO BE, UM, DEFERRED TILL SOME LATER POINT.
THE QUESTION I HAVE IS THAT THE, BY TABLING THE, UM, APPLICATION FOR THE SITE PLAN, WE'RE ACTUALLY PUTTING THE HORSE OR, OR THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE APPROVAL FOR THE, FOR THE ZONING.
AND UNTIL THAT TAKES PLACE, WE SHOULDN'T HAVE ANYTHING ON THE SITE PLAN.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE, WE, WE, WE NEED A FULL SITE PLAN, UM, AND WE ALSO NEED THAT INFORMATION APPROXIMATELY A MONTH IN ADVANCE.
UM, Y'ALL REQUIRE THAT IF YOU HAVE, FOR THE DECEMBER 16TH MEETING, YOU REQUIRE THAT THE APPLICATION BE IN BY NORMALLY ABOUT THE 14TH.
I CAN'T REMEMBER THE EXACT DATE, BUT IT'D BE IN A, A MONTH IN ADVANCE.
SO EVERYBODY HAS A CHANCE TO STUDY IT BY GOING AHEAD AND MOVING IT TO THE NEXT MEETING.
WE'RE SKIPPING THAT STEP AND, AND WE SHOULD, DOESN'T GIVE OUR CITIZENS AN OPPORTUNITY TO PREPARE FOR, FOR THE NEXT THING THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL WERE ABLE TO SEE, UM, MY INFORMATION THAT I SUBMITTED TO THE PLANNING STAFF, UM, OR WHETHER THAT WOULD BE EVEN PERTINENT THIS EVENING, BUT THERE, THERE ARE A LOT OF ISSUES THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED.
AND WE HAD A PETITION WHICH WAS SIGNED BY 62 PEOPLE, WHICH WE SUBMITTED TO, UM, TODAY.
AND BETWEEN NOW AND DECEMBER, OR WHENEVER THE HEARING'S GONNA BE, WE WILL, UH, I ASSURED YOU GIVE YOU A LOT MORE.
UM, BUT I, I WOULD ASK THAT INSTEAD OF TABLING, UM, THIS APPLICATION FOR THING, IT SHOULD BE DISMISSED AND THEN THEY REAPPLY WHEN IT'S APPROPRIATE TIME.
UH, GENTLEMEN, UM, THE, UM, THERE WAS NO BEING NO ACTION FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION.
UH, THE FLEXIBLE DESIGN DISTRICT SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS RECOMMENDATION WE WILL TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION AND WE'LL TAKE THAT UP AT OUR DECEMBER MEETING.
[IX. REPORTS]
UH, AS FAR AS CHAIRMAN'S REPORT IS, UH, UH, AS ALWAYS, UH, LET ME JUST THANK OUR STAFF FOR DOING A, UH, UH, A GREAT JOB FOR US AND, UM, SERVING THE CITIZENS OF OUR COUNTY AND, UH, KEEPING US OUT OF TROUBLE.AND, UM, AND I'LL TURN IT OVER TO, UH, UH, FOR OUR BUILDING REPORT.
TOTAL REVENUE FOR THE MONTH OF OCTOBER IS $25,716.
THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT INSPECTION REPORT FOR OCTOBER INDICATES THAT OUR OFFICE ISSUED 85 PERMITS AND CONDUCTED A TOTAL OF 164 INSPECTIONS.
THE TOTAL INSPECTIONS FOR THE YEAR SO FAR, 1,611.
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DIRECTOR, MR. TABITHA HANNAH, FOR HER REPORT.UM, AS YOU ALL KNOW, YOU ALL RECEIVE LETTERS IN THE MAIL FOR THE UPCOMING, UM, PLANNING COMMISSION, COUNTY COUNCIL APPRECIATION DINNER, WHICH WILL BE AT PORTAL JACKS ON DECEMBER THE FOURTH, 2025 AT 5:30 PM PLEASE.
RSVP BACK TO THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, UM, NO LATER THAN, WHAT IS THAT EXTENDED DATE? 20, THE 25TH OF NOVEMBER.
AND ALSO IN ADDITION, CADET, UM, JUST COME READY TO ENJOY YOURSELF AND, AND BRING A GUEST ALSO.
UM, SPEAKING OF STAFF, UM, WE DO HAVE A NEW STAFF MEMBER THAT'S HERE THIS EVENING.
UM, WE HAVE A NEW, UM, RECORDS CLERK.
WELL ACTUALLY, SHE, WE, UM, CHANGED POSITIONS.
SHE IS NOW THE ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT AND HER NAME IS MS. GLORIA PEARSON MURRAY.
SHE COMES WITH US FROM THE CLATON COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT.
AND ALSO I WORKED WITH HER MANY, MANY, MANY YEARS AGO FROM THE SUMTER COUNTY FAMILY COURT.
SO SHE COMES WITH VERY EXTENSIVE EXPERIENCE AND WE ARE HAPPY TO HAVE HER THERE BEING NOTHING ELSE ON OUR AGENDA.
UH, COMMISSIONERS DO I HEAR A MOTION? WE ADJOURN.
WE ADJOURN SECOND BY COMMISSIONER DURAN.