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[1. CALL TO ORDER: County Administrator: Walt Ackerman]
GOOD AFTERNOON.THE TIME ON MY PHONE IS SIX O'CLOCK, SO WE SHOULD BE HOT AND LIVE AT THIS POINT.
STREAMING TO THE FOLKS OF CLAREDON COUNTY.
I WOULD LIKE TO WELCOME THE COMMISSION MEMBERS TO WHAT IS PROBABLY NOT THE FIRST MEETING, BUT IT'S PROBABLY THE FIRST MEETING FOR MOST COMMISSIONERS.
AND IN ORDER TO GET TONIGHT'S MEETING OFF THE GROUND, AND I'LL EXPLAIN THIS AGAIN FOR THE COMMISSIONER'S BENEFIT AND THOSE INATTENDANCE AND WATCHING, UM, WE HAVE AN ODD SITUATION WHERE SINCE THE COMMISSION HAS NOT YET MET AS A BODY IN SUCH A PERIOD OF TIME, THERE IS NO CHAIR IN PLACE FOR THE COMMISSION.
AND THEREFORE, UNDER THE RULES OF ORDER OF THE MEETING, THE COMMISSION ITSELF HAS NO MEMBER OF THE BODY TO OPEN THE MEETING.
SO I'M STANDING IN RIGHT NOW TO OPEN THE MEETING.
WE'LL GO THROUGH SOME INITIAL SETUP, THEN WE WILL HOLD, AND THE BODY WILL HOLD AN ELECTION FOR CHAIR.
AND THEN I WILL TURN THE MEETING OVER TO THE CHAIR TO THEN CONDUCT THE ELECTION OF VICE CHAIR, AND THEN CONDUCT THE REMAINDER OF THE MEETING.
SO DEPENDING ON HOW Y'ALL CHOOSE THINGS, THERE MAY BE SOME SHUFFLING OF SEATS.
UM, TYPICALLY THE CHAIR SITS IN THE CENTER, BUT I WILL LEAVE THAT UP TO THE BODY.
THAT IS COMPLETELY YOUR CHOICE.
UM, SO TO KICK THINGS OFF, FIRST ITEM UP, AND THIS IS AN OVERSIGHT THAT I JUST SAW.
WE TYPICALLY OPEN ALL PUBLIC MEETINGS WITH THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND A, AND AN INVOCATION.
UM, THE AGENDA SIMPLY SAYS INVOCATION.
I WOULD LIKE TO OFFER UP WITH THE BODY'S PLEASURE THAT WE AMEND THE AGENDA TO INCLUDE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE ON AS UNDER ITEM TWO, ALONG WITH INVOCATION.
I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE READ MY RULES BETTER BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN EVEN TAKE A MOTION ON THAT.
CAN WE ANYBODY KNOW ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER BETTER? I DON'T THINK IT'S OUTTA ORDER FOR THE BODY TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AS AMENDED, UM, BY ADDING THE PLEDGE.
WELL, IF Y'ALL WILL INDULGE ME, UM, LET'S STAND, WE'LL BEGIN WITH THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, AND THEN WE'LL MOVE INTO THE INVOCATION, WHICH WILL BE THE LORD'S PRAYER.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE RECOVERY FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
FOLLOW ME THE LORD'S PRAYER, PLEASE.
OUR FATHER WHO ARE IN HEAVEN, HALLOW BE THY NAME.
THY KINGDOM COME, THOU WILL BE DONE ON EARTH AS IT IS IN HEAVEN.
GIVE US THIS THING OUR DAILY BREAD, AND FORGIVE US OUR TRESPASSES AS WE FORGIVE THOSE TRESPASSED AGAINST US.
LEAD US NOT IN THE TEMPTATION, BUT DELIVER US MEANING FOR TH IS KINGDOM, THE POWER AND GLORY FOREVER.
I THINK IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE
[3. Introductions: newly appointed members (Part 1 of 2)]
AT THIS TIME IF THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION WHO ARE PRESENT WOULD GO AROUND AND INTRODUCE THEMSELVES.IF WE COULD START FROM THE LEFT SIDE OF THE BODY, FROM THE PUBLIC'S LEFT.
UM, IF YOU WOULD INTRODUCE YOURSELF, GIVE YOURSELF, UM, A LITTLE BRIEF INTRODUCTION AS BEST YOU SEE FIT.
I'M A RESIDENT OF TURVILLE EXCEPT FOR A FEW YEARS AWAY IN COLLEGE.
I'M A LIFELONG RESIDENT OF CLA COUNTY.
I FLY A LITTLE BIT AS A HOBBY.
I DON'T DO ANYTHING PROFESSIONALLY, UH, IN THE AVIATION ROUND.
UH, PROFESSIONALLY, I'M A CIVIL ENGINEER.
I WORK FOR DAVIDSON FLOYD ENGINEERS, UM, A NUMBER OF PROJECTS AROUND SOUTH CAROLINA MOSTLY.
AND, UM, AS A CITIZEN OF THE COUNTY, ONE REASON I CHOSE TO SERVE ON THE COMMISSION WHEN ASKED TO DO SO IS TRYING TO GIVE BACK TO MY COUNTY.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHY I'M HERE TONIGHT.
I AM A FIVE YEAR RESIDENT OF, UH, CLATON COUNTY.
I LIVE HERE IN MANNING AT PALMETTO AIR PLANTATION.
I 45 YEARS AS A PILOT, BOTH, UH, 11 YEARS MILITARY, 20 YEARS, UH, AIRLINE PILOT WITH JETBLUE.
UH, I SPENT, UH, THREE YEARS AS A FLIGHT INSPECTOR WITH THE FAA.
AND, UH, CURRENTLY I OPERATE A T 34 OUT OF, UH, PALMETTO AIR PLANTATION AND A COMMERCIAL PILOT, UH, OUT OF, UH, MAN OUT OF MANNING SANT COOPER AND THE KING AIR.
I'VE A RESIDENT OF MCLAREN COUNTY SINCE 1985.
I OWN AND OPERATE, UH, MID EASTERN COMPANY AND DEVELOPED PALM AIR PLANTATION AND A FEW OTHER BUSINESSES, DIVERSE ALONG THE WAY.
BUT, UM, I'M AN AVIATOR SINCE 1987, AND, UM, AS RICHARD SAID, I'M, I'M
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HERE TO GIVE BACK TO MY COUNTY, AND THIS COUNTY'S BEEN GOOD TO ME OVER THESE YEARS.AND, UM, AND THAT'S, THAT'S MY POSITION.
I WANT TO, I WANNA HELP GET OUR AIRPORT ON TRACK AND, UM, SEE WHAT WE CAN DO FOR THE BETTERMENT OF OUR COUNTY.
I'M KI PRATT, UM, RESIDENT OF AL LOOP.
UM, I'VE GOT 14 YEARS OF AIRPORT MANAGEMENT EXPERIENCE AT TWO DIFFERENT AIRPORTS.
UM, I ALSO SERVED ON ONE OF THOSE COMMISSIONS AFTER I RESIGNED FROM THAT.
I FLY TO CHARLESTON FOR A, UM, A, UM, COMPANY THERE.
WE FLY INTERNATIONALLY AND, YOU KNOW, JUST WHEREVER HE WANTS US TO GO.
UM, BEEN IN AVIATION BUSINESS FOR OVER 35 YEARS.
I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF CLARENDON COUNTY FOR APPROXIMATELY THREE YEARS, BUT I'VE BEEN COMING TO THE CLARENDON COUNTY AIRPORT FOR OVER 40 YEARS.
UH, I AM A PROFESSIONAL PILOT.
I'VE BEEN A PROFESSIONAL FOR 48.
I CURRENTLY FLY TWO DIFFERENT JETS, A, UH, OB 10 BRONCO FOR BUFORT COUNTY, AND I'M ALSO HELICOPTER RATED, AND I'M HERE TO, UH, TO GIVE BACK TO A BUSINESS.
[4. Election of Commission Chairman: Walt Ackerman]
NOW MOVE ON TO ELECTION OF CHAIR.UM, THE WAY THE ELECTION WILL BE STRUCTURED IS IN ORDER TO, WELL, FIRST, I DON'T THINK UNDER THE RULES, YOU CAN, YOU CAN, UM, NOMINATE YOURSELF, BUT WE WILL OPEN THE FLOOR FOR NOMINATIONS.
YOU WILL, YOU DON'T HAVE TO, BUT YOU CAN NOMINATE SOMEONE TO BE CHAIR.
EACH NOMINATION WILL REQUIRE A SECOND.
IF THERE IS NO SECOND, THAT NOMINATION WILL DIE.
ONCE WE RECEIVE NOMINATIONS, THEN SOMEBODY FROM THE BODY WILL MOVE TO CLOSE NOMINATIONS, AND THEN WE'LL MOVE TO A VOTE CLEAR AS MUD.
AND THEN WHOEVER IS ELECTED CHAIR, PLEASE FOLLOW SUIT WITH THE SAME.
SO AT THIS TIME, WE WILL OPEN THE FLOOR FOR NOMINATIONS FOR CHAIR OF THE CLAREDON COUNTY AIRPORT COMMISSION.
I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE JOE WITT TO BE THE CHAIR OF THE COMMISSION.
WE HAVE A NOMINATION FOR MR. WITT.
ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS? DO I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE NOMINATIONS? SO, SECOND.
NOMINATIONS FOR CHAIR, UM, HAVE BEEN CLOSED AT THIS TIME.
MR. JOE WITT WAS THE SOLE CANDIDATE TO BE NOMINATED TO BE CHAIR OF THE COMMISSION.
ARE YOU READY FOR THE QUESTION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF MR. WIT BEING CHAIR, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
ALL OPPOSED, MR. WIT, YOU ARE NOW CHAIR AND I DO NOT, AND ANY RELUCTANCE AT ALL? TURN THE GAVEL OVER TO YOU, SIR.
WALTER, I APPRECIATE IT, MR. THANK YOU.
[5. Election of Vice Chairman: Commission Chairman]
FOR A NOMINATION FOR A VICE CHAIRMAN.YOU HAVE A NOMINATION FOR ANYONE? IS IT APPROPRIATE THAT I COULD NOMINATE? YES, SIR.
AS CHAIR, YOU CAN NOMINATE, I'D LIKE TO NOMINATE MR. STEVE ZAM.
IS THERE A SECOND FOR THAT? I'LL SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
SORRY, ALL MR. CHAIR, WE DO HAVE TO HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE NOMINATIONS.
CAN WE NOW CALL FOR THE QUESTION, SIR? YES.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, MR. ZALAR BEING ELECTED AS VICE CHAIRMAN SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
OPPOSED? MR. ZALAR WILL BE OUR VICE CHAIRMAN.
UM, SO THE MEETING'S NOW MINE, MR. ACKMAN, IS THAT CORRECT? YES, SIR.
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WOULD MOVE FURTHER, UM, ALONG THAT SAME LEVEL OF THE, OF THE RULES OF IT, I, I'D LIKE US TO ADJUST THE AGENDA AND THEN APPROVE THE AGENDA BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S WHAT'S APPROPRIATE, THAT AN AGENDA IS NORMALLY APPROVED IN, UH, IN EXERCISE OF EXPEDIENCE.UM, UNLESS SOMEBODY WOULD OBJECT TO IT, I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, GO THROUGH A FEW THINGS OF ADJUSTMENTS AND THEN WE COULD JUST SKIP ONE MOTION FOR IT.
IS THAT, IS, IS THAT SUITABLE WITH EVERYONE? UM, SO AS I UNDERSTAND THE CORRECTNESS OF IT, OF THE MEETING, WE WOULD'VE HAD MINUTES OF A PREVIOUS
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MEETING AND THERE WAS A BOARD IN PLACE, AND IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN A PRIOR MEETING TO THIS.DON'T THINK WE HAVE IT, SO WE CAN'T MOVE ON IT, BUT WELL, JUST AS A POINT OF RECORD, WE DON'T HAVE THAT.
WELL, SO THE BOARD WOULD ONLY APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE MEETING IN WHICH IT SAT AS A BOARD.
SO, SO I REALIZE I COULDN'T APPROVE IT AND NONE OF US COULD.
WELL, BUT THERE'S NOT ENOUGH TO HAVE A QUORUM, SO I DON'T THINK THAT NECESSARILY WOULD 'EM APPROPRIATE.
UM, WE CAN DIG UP IF THERE WERE, IF THERE ARE MINUTES IN EXISTENCE, WE CAN DIG THOSE UP AND PROVIDE 'EM TO THE BOARD.
I, I, I'D JUST LIKE TO NOTE THAT WE ASKED FOR THOSE AND, AND WE CAN GET THOSE GOING FORWARD.
UM, I'D ALSO LIKE TO PLACE ON THE AGENDA, UM, WE HAVE SOMEBODY HERE FROM OUR DELEGATION.
I'D LIKE TO HAVE A SPOT ON THE AGENDA THAT OUR, SOMEBODY FROM THE DELEGATION COULD SPEAK IF THEY SO MOVED.
I'D LIKE TO PUT THAT AS, UH, SEVEN B.
AND THEN I WOULD LIKE TO ADD SEVEN CA MOMENT THAT THE COMMISSIONERS COULD ASK QUESTIONS OF, OF THE STAFF OR ANY ELECTED OFFICIALS AND, AND PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE.
UM, SO THAT'S WOULD BE FIVE B, THE APPROVAL OF THE ADJUSTED AGENDA, AND FIVE C, THE, THE MINUTES, THE DELEGATION AND THE QUESTIONS.
WOULD I GET A, A MOTION THAT WE COULD AMEND THIS AGENDA? SO MOVED.
SO JUST FOR POINT OF THE RECORD, WE WOULD NOT ADJUST THE AGENDA BY ADDING AN ITEM TO ADJUST THE AGENDA.
SO THERE WOULD NO BE NO NEED FOR THE FIVE B, ONLY THE SEVEN, B AND C.
BUT LET'S MAKE NOTE OF FIVE C.
WELL, ON THE RECORD, WE ARE AMENDING THE AGENDA, AND THEN THERE WAS A MOTION AND APPROVAL.
SO THAT SHOULD BE IN THE MINUTES OF THE MEETING.
BUT WE DON'T AMEND THE AGENDA BY ADDING AN ITEM TO AMEND THE AGENDA.
PROCEDURAL SEVEN B AND C WILL BE ON THE AGENDA? YES.
[6. Briefing on current AIP: Walt Ackerman]
TO THIS AGENDA FOR YOU, UH, YOU'RE SAYING NUMBER SIX, YOU'RE UP FOR NUMBER SIX, A BRIEFING ON THE CURRENT.SO INFORMATION, UM, THIS IS THE, THE FULL MEASURE OF THE BRIEFING.
A PACKET OF INFORMATION WAS PROVIDED TO COMMISSION MEMBERS, HAS A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF DATA IN IT.
UM, PART OF IT IS AN ENGINEERING REPORT, UM, AND SOME INFORMATION FROM FAA ABOUT WHAT THEY SEE AT THE AIRPORT, THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED IN THE PAST AT THE AIRPORT, WHAT THE FAA WOULD LIKE TO SEE GO ON AT THE AIRPORT.
UM, I THINK FUNDING THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED, THERE IS SOME BUDGETARY INFORMATION IN THERE.
WHAT WE WOULD ENCOURAGE THE COMMISSION TO DO IS GO BACK, TAKE YOUR TIME, GET A GOOD STRONG CUP OF COFFEE, START REVIEWING THE DATA, AND THEN AT THE NEXT MEETING WE CAN HAVE ALL OF THE APPROPRIATE ENGINEERS, STAFF EXPERTS, WHOEVER WE NEED TO HAVE HERE TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT INFORMATION.
UM, SO WHILE THE, THE COUNTY BUDGET FOR THE AIRPORT IS IN THIS PACKET? YES.
UM, NOT THE FUTURE UPCOMING BECAUSE IT HADN'T BEEN SET YET, BUT THE CURRENT BUDGET, AND I THINK IT'S GOT YEAR TO DATE EXPENDITURES.
UM, THERE'S A, DO WE HAVE, HOLD ON.
DO WE HAVE INFORMATION ON TENANT RECORDS AND TENANT? YES.
UNDER THE GREEN TAB IS THE, IS THAT INFORMATION, UM, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY INFORMATION HERE ABOUT TENANT DATA, BUT THERE IS AN UPDATE ON THE STATUS OF, UM, WHERE WE STAND WITH SOME, LET'S SAY, MINOR ISSUES WE HAVE WITH SOME OF THE LEASES AND SOME OF THE TENANTS THAT ARE OUT THERE THAT STEPS THAT HAVE BEEN TAKEN TO RECTIFY THOSE ISSUES.
UM, SO JUST FOR A POINT, CAN WE EXPECT THOSE RENT ROLLS AND INFORMATION ON THAT RENTAL INFORMATION THAT WE SEE PARITY ACROSS THAT, UM, WE'LL SEE WHAT WE CAN DO.
THEY, I MEAN, THEY, THEY REPORT THAT TO YOU ON A MONTHLY BASIS, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S WHAT'S IN THE CONTRACT.
I'M JUST, I'D HAVE TO GO AND CHECK WITH OUR FINANCE DEPARTMENT TO SEE HOW THAT'S DONE, HOW THAT'S CAPTURED.
UM, I DON'T KNOW ENOUGH DETAIL TO, TO SAY HOW EASY THAT'S GONNA BE.
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FOR POINT OF RECORD THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO, WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT.UM, I UNDERSTAND THAT MAYBE THERE'S AN, UH, UPCOMING INSPECTION OUT THERE.
IS THAT CORRECT? TO INSPECT THE, THE HANGERS AND THE TENANTS? YEAH.
AND, AND WHO WILL THAT BE CONDUCTED BY? UM, BY CONTRACT.
THAT SHOULD BE THE FBO, BUT I THINK WE MAY END UP HAVING SOME STAFF INVOLVEMENT IN THAT AS WELL.
UM, CAN WE BE, CAN THE COMMISSION BE NOTIFIED SO THAT WE COULD BE PRESENT IF WE DESIRE? I DON'T SEE WHY NOT.
ANY, ANYTHING FURTHER ON THIS PACKET? NO, SIR.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION ON THIS AT THIS TIME? NO.
LOOKS LIKE A LOT TO GO THROUGH.
YOU ASKED A QUESTION EARLIER ABOUT THE BUDGET AND IF YOU LOOK, THERE'S LIKE A TABLE OF CONTENTS IN THAT PACKET.
SO THE GREEN TAB IS YOUR BUDGET INFORMATION.
UM, JUST IN FURTHER TO THIS, UM, WAL GOING FORWARD, IF, IF WE DECIDE THAT WE WANNA TRY TO GET A LITTLE MORE IN DEPTH INFORMATION, WILL WE BE ABLE TO GET THAT FROM FINANCE? I'LL HAVE TO SEE WHAT YOU BELIEVE.
ANYTHING FURTHER ON THIS? YEAH, MIGHT ROLL.
UH, MR. WALT, UH, THE, YOU SAID THE ENGINEERS WOULD, UH, BE PRESENT POSSIBLY AT OUR NEXT MEETING TO ASK IF, IF THE COMMISSION DESIRES THAT.
I MEAN, IF YOU READ THROUGH THE REPORT AND ALL OF Y'ALL GO, WHICH I CAN'T IMAGINE EVERYBODY WOULD GO, YOU KNOW WHAT, I GOT THIS, I'M, I'M FULLY UNDER.
I DON'T NEED ANYBODY TO TELL ME.
AND THEN NO, WE WOULDN'T HAVE IT HERE.
BUT IF, IF ANYBODY IN THE COMMISSION DESIRES TO HAVE AN ENGINEER HERE, ABSOLUTELY WE'LL HAVE IT HERE.
UH, I'M JUST LOOKING AT, UH, THE RUNAWAY, UH, RECONSTRUCTION, UH, 30,000, UM, DESIGN.
IT'S KIND OF DIFFICULT TO READ HERE, BUT, UM, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT'S ALREADY IN THE WORKS? UH, YES.
THAT'S IN THE, I THINK THERE'S A FIVE YEAR CIP IS THERE A DETAILED, UH, UM, DATA ON, ON WHAT THAT THE PROCEDURE IS GONNA BE INCLUDED? IT, THAT RECONSTRUCTION OF THE RUN? HOW MUCH DETAILS IN THAT PACKAGE HAS, HAS THAT CONTRACT BEEN LEFT? AS FAR AS THE DETAIL THAT CAN BE DONE? LIKE THE, WHAT ARE YOU, ARE YOU LOOKING FOR LIKE THE ENGINEERING SPECIFICATIONS AND WHAT NO, OVER, UH, JUST A BROAD OVERVIEW.
HAS THERE BEEN ANY CONTRACTS LEFT AS NO, NO, NO CONTRACTS AT THIS POINT.
UH, WE'RE STILL WAITING ON THE FA FUNDING.
THE FAA HAS INDICATED THIS IS THE NEXT THING WE WANT TO DO AND THEY'RE SETTING ASIDE THE FUNDING FOR IT.
BUT WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED THAT FUNDING YET FROM THE FAA TO MY KNOWLEDGE.
FEDERAL GRANT PROCESS IS NOT WELL, THE FASTEST SNAIL IN THE BOX.
IS THIS JUST A, UM, AN OVERLAY OF THE EXISTING ROADWAY OR IS IT A COMPLETE RECONSTRUCTION? IT'S A, I THINK THEY'RE GONNA TAKE IT DOWN, UM, TAKE THE SURFACE DOWN AND I THINK THERE ARE SPOTS WHERE THEY HAVE TO GO IN AND ACTUALLY COMPLETELY REDO THE SUBSTRATE.
UM, SOME OF IT'S INTACT, SOME OF IT'S NOT.
IT'S GOT SOFT SPOTS AND GROUNDWATER ISSUES AND WHATNOT.
SO THERE'LL BE SPOTS THEY HAVE TO TAKE OUT, REDO THE ENTIRE SUBSTRATE AND THEN REPAVE BACK OVER.
I WOULD SAY PROBABLY 75% WOULD JUST SIMPLY BE RESURFACING.
UM, BUT THEY ARE GONNA DO SOME SIGNIFICANT REPAIRS.
'CAUSE IT'S GOT A LOT, AS Y'ALL KNOW, IT'S GOT A LOT OF THIS IN IT, SO, UM, SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO SEE THAT.
WELL, WE'LL BE ABLE TO SEE THOSE ENGINEERED YEAH.
UNLESS ELSE YOU HAVE ANYTHING.
UH, MY QUESTION WOULD BE IS ARE WE GONNA CHANGE THE WEIGHT REQUIREMENT FOR THE RUNWAY? FOR EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A SINGLE, SINGLE WHEEL WEIGHT AND A DUAL WHEEL LOW WEIGHT, AND I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT IT IS NOW AND IF WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE IT, THEY'LL PROBABLY BE IN THAT ENGINEERING REPORT ON HOW THEY DESIGN IT.
YEAH, WELL THAT MAY BE IN, SO HE'S ASKING IF IF ONCE THEY FIX THE RUNWAY, IS THAT GOING TO CHANGE THE, UM, THE SINGLE AND DUAL WHEEL WEIGHT CAPACITY OF THE WEIGHT CAPACITY, I BELIEVE IS WHAT IT'S CALLED? YEAH, THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD BE AN ENGINEERING QUESTION FOR HOLT.
BUT I, IT DEPENDS ON THE, WHAT THE FAA REGULATIONS ARE.
USUALLY THE FAA WILL LET YOU DO WHATEVER YOU WANT ON THAT.
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HOW MUCH MONEY THEY SINK INTO.YOU KNOW, I DON'T SEE ANYTHING IN THERE.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT I'M SEEING HERE.
DO WE ANTICIPATE A NEED TO INCREASE THAT OR ARE YOU CONCERNED ABOUT A, A REDUCTION IN, IN CAPACITY? I WOULD ANTICIPATE A NEED TO, TO INCREASE IT, HANDLE SOME HEAVIER AIRCRAFT WITH THE LENGTH.
I, I'D SURE LIKE TO SEE THIS MOVING IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION, BUT LET'S MAKE SO AT LEAST MAKE SURE WE DON'T GET IT.
WITH WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE, UH, TAX RELIEF.
UM, I, I DON'T THINK ANY, ANYTHING FURTHER.
[7. Update on Airport Issues: Vickie Williams, Airport Manager (Part 1 of 2)]
IS MS. WILLIAMS, I BELIEVE.GOOD EVENING COMMISSION MEMBERS AND WELCOME.
IT'S A PLEASURE TO MEET YOU ALL.
I DID KNOW JOE, BUT THE REST OF YOU, IT'S A PLEASURE TO MEET YOU FOR THE FIRST TIME.
UM, I KNOW THAT YOU DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT ME, SO I'M GONNA TAKE JUST A COUPLE MINUTES TO TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MY HISTORY AND HOW I GOT, HOW I GOT THIS POSITION.
UM, PLEASE KNOW, MY PROFESSIONAL CAREER, UM, IS FOR 12 YEARS, FIRST WITH THE SAN LYNCH'S REGIONAL COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS.
I WAS THE DIRECTOR OF AGING AND HOUSING PROGRAMS AND GRANT DEVELOPMENT.
UM, I'VE WORKED FOR THE COUNTY HERE FOR 15 YEARS AS THE GRANTS ADMINISTRATOR.
AND THAT INCLUDED WORKING FROM DAY ONE VERY CLOSELY WITH THE FAA FOUR YEARS AGO, MAYBE FOUR AND A HALF NOW.
MY JOB DUTIES INCREASED TO TAKE OVER THE MANAGEMENT OF THE AIRPORT.
UM, THIS WAS A CHALLENGE FOR ME, UM, BUT I DIDN'T TAKE IT LIGHTLY AND I STILL DON'T.
MY FIRST PRIORITY WAS TO GET A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE DAY-TO-DAY MANAGEMENT OF THE AIRPORT INVOLVED.
NEXT I MOVE DOWN TO DISCUSSIONS WITH OUR AIRPORT ENGINEERING CONSULTANTS, HOLT CONSULTING, THE SOUTH CAROLINA KNOX COMMISSION, AND THE FAA AIRPORT DEVELOPMENT PLANNER THAT WE'VE BEEN ASSIGNED TO.
THOSE DISCUSSIONS CENTERED AROUND WHAT ANNUAL INSPECTIONS HAD IDENTIFIED AS ISSUES THAT NEEDED TO BE CORRECTED, FAA FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES AND THE TIMELINES TO BE INCORPORATED INTO THE FIVE-YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.
THE CURRENT CIP IS INCLUDED IN YOUR NOTEBOOKS AND INCLUDES THE FAA AND SCAS RECOMMENDATIONS AND APPROVAL MOVING FORWARD, LIKE WE SAID EARLIER, QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE ABOUT THAT.
CIP CERTAINLY HOLT WILL ADDRESS, UM, IF YOU WISH, THE NEXT MEETING.
THEY'VE BEEN WITH US FOR THE PAST FIVE YEARS AND THEY JUST RENEWED THE CONTRACT FOR ANOTHER FIVE YEARS.
MY SECOND PRIORITY WAS TO ADDRESS THE NON-CONSTRUCTION ITEMS THAT HAD BEEN IDENTIFIED.
ONE WAS THAT THE OLDEST HANGAR WAS IN NEED OF SORELY IN NEED OF BEING REPAINTED, WHICH WE COMPLETED CONCERNS DURING COVID CAME FROM MANY PILOTS BECAUSE, AS YOU KNOW, THE TERMINAL WAS CONSTRUCTED IN 1966.
AND, UM, DEFINITELY IS NOT CONDUCIVE TO, UH, WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN A TERMINAL, INCLUDING NO SPACE DURING COVID.
FOR PILOTS WHO WERE STOPPING TO REST, WE'RE, WE'RE IN A THREE OR FOUR FOOT CONFINEMENT AREA.
UM, WE WORKED WITH MR. WILLIAMS, WHO WAS ONE OF, IS THAT ONE OF OUR COMMISSION MEMBERS WHO HELPED US GET THE GAZEBO TO PUT OUT, WHICH HAS PROVEN TO BE A WONDERFUL, UM, ASSET TO THE AIRPORT.
AND WE INCLUDED A SMALL DOG PARK BECAUSE, MUCH TO MY DELIGHT, 'CAUSE I'M AN AVID ANIMAL LOVER, A LOT OF PILOTS FLY WITH THEIR PETS.
AND WHEN THEY STOP AT AIRPORTS, THEY HAVE NO PLACE FOR THE PETS TO RUN AROUND AND EXERCISE.
AND I'VE GOTTEN QUITE A, QUITE A FEEDBACK FROM PILOTS THAT FLY WITH THEIR PETS ON HOW NICE IT IS TO GET DOWN IN OUR AIRPORT AND BE ABLE TO PUT THEIR PETS IN THE PET YARD.
WE HAVE NEW SECURITY CAMERAS NOW THAT WILL GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY TO IDENTIFY VEHICLES THAT CRASH CONSISTENTLY INTO THE PERIMETER.
THERE'S NO CURVE, BUT IT'S HAPPENED THREE TIMES AND IT'S COSTLY TO REPLACE THAT FENCING.
AND IT, AND IT IMPACTS, OF COURSE, THE INTEGRITY AND THE SAFETY OF THE AIRPORT, WHICH WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN.
TWO MORE WILL BE INSTALLED THIS NEXT FISCAL YEAR, WHICH WE'LL LOOK DOWN THE, THE SOUTH SIDE AND THE ENTRANCE TO THE AIRPORT.
MS. MS. WILLIAMS, COULD WE PAUSE FOR JUST A MOMENT FOR, UH, OH YEAH.
MR. GIBBONS CU MR. GIBBONS, WELCOME.
THE COMMISSION VOTED YOU HERE.
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UM, MAYBE GIVE CHAD JUST[3. Introductions: newly appointed members (Part 2 of 2)]
A MOMENT AND, UH, LET YOU INTRODUCE YOURSELF BEFORE WE PROCEED.MS. WILLIAMS, IF YOU DON'T MIND.
HEY, EVERYONE, MY NAME IS CHAD GIBBONS.
I LIVE OVER IN TURVILLE, UM, THE COMMUNITY PHARMACY OVER THERE.
UM, I'M A PRIVATE PILOT, HASN'T TOLD NEARLY AS MUCH AS I LIKE TO IN THE LAST FEW YEARS, BUT ANYWAY, THAT'S, THAT'S ME.
[7. Update on Airport Issues: Vickie Williams, Airport Manager (Part 2 of 2)]
CONTINUE.UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME UP RIGHT AWAY WHEN I TOOK OVER WAS WE HAVE A HUGE DRAINAGE PROBLEM AT THE AIRPORT.
UH, WHEN IT WAS CONSTRUCTED, UH, THE DRAINAGE WAS COMING OFF THE TWO 60 DOWN OVER UNDERNEATH THE TAXIWAY, UNDERNEATH THE RUNWAY, AND THEN GOING INTO WHITE BOOM.
I DON'T KNOW WHO DESIGNED IT, BUT, UM, THAT'S BEEN AN ANNUAL PROBLEM AND ONE THAT HAS CAUSED SINKHOLE MASSIVE SINKHOLE.
UH, SO OUR DRAINAGE PROBLEM NOW, UM, MAINTENANCE THAT WE'VE PUT IN IS TO CLEAN OUT THOSE DITCHES EVERY YEAR.
AND IT'S REALLY IMPROVED THE DRAINAGE AND IT'S HELPED WITH, UH, ELIMINATING SOME OF THE SINKHOLE.
WE'VE WORKED TO TRANSITION TO A NEW GPS OUR NAV APPROACH FOR RUNWAY 20, WHICH WAS REQUESTED, UM, OF THE FAA ON MAY 1ST, 2024.
UM, WE WERE PUT ON THE FAA SCHEDULE TO CANCEL THE N-D-B-I-A-P AND CHART AND OUR NAV GPS SYSTEM ON RUNWAY 20 SOMETIME IN MAY OF 2026.
AND I JUST GOT A NOTE THAT THAT'S PENDING WHAT THE FAA IN WASHINGTON, HOW THEIR BUDGET WORKS OUT.
UM, MY GOAL HAS ALWAYS BEEN TO MAKE SAN TQ FOR THE BEST IT CAN BE BECAUSE WE'RE LANDLOCKED THERE.
THERE'S THINGS WE CAN, THINGS WE CAN'T DO.
BUT, UM, I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO MAKE IT A TOP PRIORITY AND BEING THE BEST LITTLE AIRPORT WE CAN MAKE IT.
WITH THAT SAID, I KNOW THERE WERE SOME ISSUES IDENTIFIED WHEN YOU MET INFORMALLY WITH MR. UM, ACKERMAN, AND SO I WANTED TO ADDRESS THOSE TONIGHT.
UM, ONE WAS PUBLIC ACCESS TO THE AIRPORT.
AND LIKE I SAID EARLIER, UM, THERE IS PUBLIC ACCESS TO THE AIRPORT, BUT IT'S DURING BUSINESS HOURS AND IT'S DEPENDENT UPON OUR INTERCOM SYSTEM AT THE GATE.
UM, THAT INTERCOM SYSTEM ALLOWS PEOPLE JUST TO PRESS THE BUTTON AND THE STAFFING AND, AND OUR FBO OFFICE LETS PEOPLE IN AND OUT FOR PILOTS FLYING IN AND OUT.
THERE'S ALSO AN ACCESS DOOR AND IN YOUR PACKETS, UM, I'VE INCLUDED PICTURES OF, OF THAT.
AND THEY, YOU KNOW, EVERY, ALL OF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH YOUR IN UNICOM FREQUENCY.
THAT SAME UNICOM FREQUENCY CODE OPENS THAT DOOR, THAT GATE DOOR TO GO INTO THE TERMINAL.
SO PILOTS SAID THAT EGRESS OR INGRESS COME IN AND OUT, THEY CAN USE THAT UNICOM FREQUENCY AND, AND ACCESS, UH, GOING IN AND GOING OUT WITHOUT A VEHICLE.
UM, THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN INCLUDES, OF COURSE, UH, REDOING THE TERMINAL.
UM, BUT THAT WILL NOT BE UNTIL YEAR 28 29.
WE HAVE A GAP YEAR IN FUNDING FOR 27 AND 28.
UM, AND THAT'S BECAUSE THE RUNWAY IS EXPECTED TO RUN INTO A GREAT DEAL OF MONEY.
AND THE FAA IS IS, UH, GIVING US A GAP YEAR IN THAT YEAR.
AGAIN, THAT IS, THOSE ARE ISSUES THAT THE, UM, ENGINEER FIRM CAN, CAN TALK OVER WITH YOU.
UM, THE PRIVATE HANGAR ENTRANCE AND EXIT, UM, UNFORTUNATELY THERE'S ONE PLOT OF LAND THAT THE COUNTY DOES NOT OWN AT THE AIRPORT.
AND THAT PLOT OF LAND CONTAINS A HANGAR AND THERE IS A, UM, MAINTENANCE AIRCRAFT, MAINTENANCE BUSINESS IN THAT HANGAR.
UH, THAT HANGAR WAS, UH, AND THAT LAND WAS RECENTLY SOLD.
UM, THE FORMER OWNER, THE STOYA, UH, WERE CAME TO THE COUNTY ON 2D THREE DIFFERENT OCCASIONS WANTING TO DO THEIR OWN ENTRANCE FROM TWO 60 INTO THAT HANGAR.
BUT AS YOU KNOW, THE COUNTY CAN'T PUT ANY MONEY INTO PRIVATE PROPERTY.
SO THE STOYA WERE, UH, GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET, UM, A SURVEYOR AND AN ENGINEER AND AN ARCHITECT AND HAND THE COUNTY PLANS HOW THEY WOULD MANAGE THEIR OWN ENTRANCE INTO THEIR HANGAR FROM TWO 60.
AND THREE DIFFERENT TIMES THAT THEY CAME TO US, THAT WAS NEVER PROVIDED.
UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WOULD WANT TO HANDLE THAT, BUT THAT, UH, CURRENT OWNER, WE SUGGESTED DURING THE RUNWAY OR THE TAXIWAY RECONSTRUCTION THAT HE MIGHT,
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UH, TALK WITH PALMETTO ASPHALT.AND AS LONG AS THEY HAD ONSITE IMMOBILIZED IN THERE, IF HE WANTED TO DO HIS OWN TAXI LANE, THAT WOULD BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO DO IT, UM, WITHOUT HAVING TO HIRE, YOU KNOW, A LARGER COMPANY TO DO IT AGAIN.
UM, WE NEVER HEARD THAT FROM THAT.
THE DOORS ON TWO CORPORATE HANGERS, UH, EVIDENTLY WERE NOT CLOSING ALL THE WAY.
WE MAKE IT A RULE THAT WE CONTACT WHENEVER WE GET AN ISSUE AT THE AIRPORT.
UM, MY ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT OR I MAKE A CONTACT THE VERY SAME DAY WITHIN HOURS OF, OF RECEIVING THAT, UM, ISSUE.
WE DID THAT AFTER WE, IT WAS NOTED THAT THERE SEEMED TO BE A COMPLAINT THAT, THAT THE DOORS WERE NOT OPENING OR CLOSING ALL THE WAY.
WE CONTACTED THE HANGAR RENTER FOR THOSE DOORS.
AND THAT WAS NOT AN ISSUE IN HIS, IN HIS VIEWPOINT, THE DOORS CLOSED.
UM, WE DID HAVE SOME DAMAGE TO THOSE DOORS WHEN THEY BROUGHT IN THE BIG MACHINE WHEN THEY WERE REDOING THE ASPHALT IN FRONT OF HANGAR A AND THAT MACHINE DID DAMAGE TWO DOORS, BUT IT WAS ON THE UPPER PART OF THE DOORS AND THAT WAS ON THE PUNCH LIST AND HAS BEEN TAKEN CARE OF.
SO I'M NOT SURE, UM, WHERE THAT COMPLAINT CAME FROM.
BUT ACCORDING TO THE HANGAR RENTER, THAT'S NOT A COMPLAINT.
THE FUEL FARM, UM, I DIDN'T HEAR WHAT THE ISSUE WAS WITH THE FUEL FARM.
I'VE INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKETS, OUR LAST TITAN FUEL DOES THE INSPECTION ANNUALLY AND THEY DO A VERY THOROUGH INSPECTION.
UM, YOU'LL SEE IN YOUR PACKETS THAT I DID HAVE SOME CONCERNS WITH OUR INSPECTION REPORT THIS TIME.
'CAUSE IT SEEMED TO MIRROR SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WERE STILL GOING ON IN 2025.
UM, ONE OF THOSE WAS THAT THE REPORTS AND CHECKING THE WATER AND THE FUEL WAS NOT BEING DONE UPON FURTHER INSPECTION.
IT ACTUALLY WAS BEING DONE EVERY DAY, BUT IT WAS BEING DONE ON A DIFFERENT REPORT FORM THAT ONE OF THE INSPECTORS WAS HAVING THE FBO IT WAS STILL A, A, A REGULAR AND REGULATORY FORM.
IT JUST WASN'T THE ONE THAT THIS INITIAL INSPECTOR WAS LOOKING AT.
SO YOU'LL SEE THE FOLLOW UP LETTER AND EMAIL IN THERE THAT I WROTE TO REBEL AND TO TIGHTEN TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN THESE INSPECTORS COME OUT TO DO THAT INSPECTION, THAT THEY'RE NOT JUST LOOKING AT THE 2025 INSPECTIONS, THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, NOTING THINGS THAT ARE REALLY ISSUES BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING LIFE AND DEATH INSTANCES.
IN SOME CASES, IF THERE'S WATER IN THE GAS AND YOU GET UP IN YOUR AIRPLANE AND THE MOTOR QUITS, NOT A GOOD THING.
SO INTERCOM RADIOS WAS, I'M SORRY, HANGERS BEING USED FOR STORAGE UNITS.
UM, THE FBO IS ACTUALLY ACCORDING TO THEIR LEASE WITH US RESPONSIBLE FOR DOING INSPECTIONS OFF AND ON, ON THE DIFFERENT HANGERS.
EVIDENTLY THAT'S NOT BEEN DONE FOR A WHILE.
UM, BECAUSE WE'VE HAD SOME COMPLAINTS RECENTLY THAT SOME OF THE UNITS ARE BEING USED TO STORE BOATS AND OTHER THINGS ASIDE FROM AIRPLANES, WHICH OF COURSE IS NOT PART OF THE LEASE AND, AND REALLY CONTRADICTS WHAT'S IN THE LEASE.
AND I'VE INCLUDED A, UH, IN YOUR PACKET FOR THESE ISSUES.
I'VE INCLUDED, UH, A COPY OF THE LEASE WHERE IT NOTES THAT AND ALSO A COPY OF THE LETTER THAT WE SENT OUT, NOTING AND LETTING THEM KNOW THAT WE'LL BE DOING INSPECTIONS BETWEEN JUNE 1ST AND JUNE 5TH.
AND ANY, ANY UNITS THAT ARE BEING USED FOR STORAGE, THOSE LEASES WILL BE DISCONTINUED.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAD A PROBLEM WITH INITIALLY IS WE HAVE TO HAVE 11 FIXED BASED AIRCRAFT AT OUR AIRPORT.
AND THAT MEANS, AND FOR SOME OF THE PILOTS OUT THERE, THAT'S BEEN A PROBLEM.
IT MEANS THAT IF YOUR FIXED BASED AIRCRAFT IS AT CHARLESTON, BUT YOU ALSO PAY FOR A UNIT AT OUR AIRPORT, WE CAN'T COUNT THAT.
IF CHARLESTON COUNTS THAT IF YOU DON'T HAVE 11 FIXED BASED AIRCRAFT, YOU DON'T GET ANY FAA FUNDING.
SO IF SOME OF THESE UNITS ARE BEING USED FOR STORAGE AND THEY WILL HAVE TO VACATE AND GIVE UP THEIR LEASE, WE HAVE A WAITING LIST OF PEOPLE WAITING TO COME IN, UH, WITH AIRCRAFT THAT WE CAN ADD TO OUR FIXED AIRCRAFT LIST.
INTERCOM RADIOS, UM, THIS AGAIN IS PRECISION AIR'S RESPONSIBILITY TO HA ANSWER THOSE RADIOS.
WE DID, UM, REPLACE THOSE RADIOS, AND I'M NOT GONNA READ ALL THE TERMINOLOGY AND THE MODELS BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT THAT IN FRONT OF YOU, BUT, UM, THERE'S BEEN COMPLAINTS THAT THOSE RADIOS AREN'T BEING ANSWERED.
UNFORTUNATELY, THERE'S NO FA REGULATIONS REQUIRING THAT.
UM, THE, UH, OUR AIRPORT PLANNER AT THE FAA LEVEL, NOTHING, NO, NO REGULATION REQUIRING
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THEM TO ANSWER THOSE RADIOS.UM, WE'VE TALKED WITH, UH, PRECISION AIR, THEY'RE HAVING A PROBLEM KEEPING STAFFING IN THE FRONT OF THE TERMINAL IN THEIR OFFICE THERE WHERE THE RADIO IS.
THERE'S ALSO ANOTHER RADIO IN THE MAINTENANCE HANGAR.
BUT IF, IF THE MAINTENANCE PERSON IS INSIDE AN AIRPLANE DOING SOMETHING THAT RADIO GOES OFF, HE SOMETIMES CAN'T MAKE IT TO GET OUT OF THE PLACE AND GET OVER TO ANSWER THE RADIO.
UM, I'VE INCLUDED PICTURES IN THE BACK, AND AGAIN, I'VE INCLUDED THE, UH, HANGAR INSPECTION, UH, LETTER THAT WAS SENT OUT, UM, THE LAND, THE LEASE THAT THEY WOULD BE VIOLATING, AND, UM, LIST OF THE RENTERS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN THEIR HANGAR NUMBERS THAT'S IN THIS PACKET? YES, SIR.
WE KEEP A LOG OF EVERY COMPLAINT THAT COMES IN AND A LOG OF, UM, WHAT WE'VE DONE ABOUT IT AND WHERE IT STANDS.
WE SEND OUT EMAILS, UM, TO ALL OF THE RENTERS NOTIFYING THEM OF ISSUES THAT ARE CURRENTLY GOING ON.
IF THERE'S ANY LIABILITY CONCERNS OR ANY PROBLEMS WITH THEM USING THAT SECTION OF WHERE THAT ISSUE IS, IS, UM, THEY WILL KNOW IT AND HOW MANY DAYS WE EXPECT THAT, UH, TO BE A DOWNTIME AND WE UPDATE 'EM.
I APOLOGIZE TO MY ASSISTANT, BRITTANY JONES.
UM, WE'RE A TEAM, UM, SHE'S ACTUALLY FIXED THE INTERCOM AT THE, AT THE ENTRANCE TO THE AIRPORT FROM HER PHONE.
SHE CAN DO A LOT OF THINGS AND SHE'S A BIG ASSET TO ME AND TO THE, THE GRANTS DEPARTMENT.
CAN I ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS MR. CHAIRMAN? I HAVE A QUESTIONS FOR, FOR VICKI.
UM, REGARDING THE, THE LAND THAT'S NOT OWNED BY THE COUNTY THAT YES, SIR.
IS THERE A THROUGH THE FENCE AGREEMENT WITH THAT TENANT? NOT TENANT, BUT YOU MEAN LIKE A LAND LEASE AGREEMENT A THROUGH THE FENCE? NO, SIR, BECAUSE IT'S THEIR LAND, THEY OWN IT.
NO, IF THEY HAVE ACCESS TO THE AIRPORT, IT'S REQUIRED THEY HAVE A THROUGH THE FENCE AGREEMENT WITH THE COUNTY RIGHT.
OTHERWISE YOU WON'T GET FEDERAL FUNDING.
SO THERE MAY BE SOME ISSUE THAT THERE IS NO FENCE THERE BECAUSE THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY NOT BEING OWNED BY THE AIRPORT PROPERTY IS NOT FENCED OUT OF THE AIRPORT PROPERTY.
IF IT WERE CORRECTLY DONE, IT WOULD BE FENCED OUT AND THEN HE WOULD HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH THE COUNTY, WITH THE AIRPORT COMMISSION TO HAVE A THROUGH THE FENCE ACCESS.
SO I THAT'S, BUT ALL I CAN SEPARATE, I CAN SAY IS I REALLY CAN'T ANSWER THAT BECAUSE THEN IN NONE OF THE FAA OR SCAS INSPECTIONS, HAS THAT BEEN NOTED? OKAY.
WE CAN TAKE INTO YEAH, IT IT'D BE WORTH CALLING KIN TOMORROW MORNING.
AND SAYING IT IS, AND I'M SURE ACTUALLY OUR, OUR CURRENT FBO, THAT WOULD BE A, THAT WOULD BE A HUGE, UM, ASSET TO HIM THAT THEY'RE NOT RUNNING BACK AND FORTH BEHIND HIS HANGER BACK AND FORTH TO THAT HANGER.
YOU CAN ADD THE AGREEMENT WITHOUT DEFENSE, RIGHT? YEAH.
IT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S JUST THE TERM THAT THE FA USES IS TRUE.
OH, AND RUSS, I'M NOT CERTAIN ABOUT THAT ANYMORE BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN LOTS OF CONTROVERSY IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE COUNTRY OVER THE ACTUAL PHYSICAL BEING OF A DIVISION.
SO I, I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER, BUT IT DOES NEED TO BE LOOKED INTO AND PROBABLY WITH SOME EXPEDIA SURE.
IF YOU ONE OF YOU COULD SEND ME AN EMAIL ON THAT, I'LL GET WITH OUR PLANNER RIGHT AWAY.
AND SO DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING WITH ANY CLARITY ON THEIR ACCESS? NO, NO SIR.
THEY'VE NEVER, THEY'VE NEVER ANSWERED OR GONE THROUGH ANY OF THE REQUIREMENTS THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH IN ORDER FOR THEM TO HAVE THEIR OWN, UH, ACCESS POINT.
UM, YOU MENTIONED THE HANGAR DOOR AND IT NOT BEING AN ISSUE FOR, I'M SORRY, DID YOU WHAT? THE, THE TENANT, THE REPAIR OF THE HANGAR DOOR.
SO THE WAY THE LEASE THAT I READ IT, UH, BOTH THE LEASE AGREEMENT FOR THE FACILITY AND THE FBO AGREEMENT, THE OWNER MAINTAINS THE MAINTENANCE OF THE, OF THE REAL PROPERTY, WHICH IS THE COUNTY.
SO DO WE DECIDE THAT THE TENANT DECIDES
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THE MAINTENANCE? NO, THAT'S NOT WHAT SHE SAID, MR. JOE? NO, NO.WHAT SHE SAID WAS, IT WAS REPORTED WHEN I SPOKE TO A FEW OF THE COMMISSION MEMBERS AND THEY BROUGHT UP ISSUES TO ME AND I REPORTED THEM BACK AND I SAID IT WAS REPORTED THAT THERE WAS, THAT THE BIG CORPORATE HANGAR DOOR WASN'T CLOSING PROPERLY.
THEY WENT OUT, LOOKED AT IT, THEY COULDN'T SEE WHAT WAS GOING ON.
THEY CONTACTED THE TENANT OF RECORD AND SAID, HEY, ARE YOU AWARE OF A PROBLEM WHERE THE DOOR DOESN'T CLOSE PROPERLY? AND THE TENANT SAYS, AS FAR AS I KNOW, EVERYTHING WORKS FINE.
SO WE'RE, ARE WE GONNA LET THE TENANT DECIDE IF OUR FACILITY'S INCORRECT REPAIR OR THE OWNER'S GONNA DECIDE IF IT'S INCORRECT REPAIR? WE'VE ALWAYS, WE'VE ALWAYS HANDLED THE REPAIRS.
THAT'S THE COUNTY'S RESPONSIBILITY.
THE, THE COUNTY HANDLES THE REPAIR, BUT THE TENANT IS THE ONE THAT UTILIZES IT.
AND IF YOU CALLED A TENANT AND THE TENANT SAYS, NO, I JUST WENT OUT TO THE DOOR AND EVERYTHING WORKS FINE, THEN THERE IS NOTHING TO FIX, IS WHAT WE WERE SAYING.
UM, JUST FOR AN ANALYTICAL CLARIFICATION, IF THERE WERE A TEAR ON THE SIDE OF THE HANGAR AND THE TENANT REALLY DIDN'T WANNA BE DISTURBED AND THE TENANT DIDN'T REALLY CARE ABOUT THE TEAR ON THE SIDE OF THE HANGAR, THAT HANGAR DOES NOT BELONG TO THE TENANT.
THE HANGAR BELONGS TO THE OWNER.
BUT IN THAT CASE, WE COULD VISUALLY SEE YES SIR.
THE TEAR ON THE SIDE OF THE HANG.
I, I'D LIKE TO NOTE, I'D LIKE TO NOTE THAT WE GO TAKE A LOOK AGAIN.
IT'S, IT'S AN, IT'S AN OBVIOUS INCLUSION THERE.
WE NOT ONLY GO AND TAKE A LOOK AT IT, WE TAKE PICTURES AND WE, AND YEAH.
YOU KNOW, AND IT'S THE SAME WAY THAT SAME HANGER JUST HAD A PROBLEM WITH A BALLAST IN ONE OF THEIR LIGHTS.
OUR FACILITIES ADMINISTRATOR GOES OUT THERE THE SAME DAY AND HE FIXED IT.
WE CAN, SO WE CAN WORK ON THIS IN RIDGE TOO? YES.
UM, YOU MENTIONED ABOUT THE PROBLEM OF HAVING PERSONNEL AT THE TERMINAL.
AND, AND I DO BELIEVE THAT THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND THE FBO PART OF THAT AGREEMENT IS THAT THEY MAINTAINED PERSONNEL THERE DURING NORMAL BUSINESS HOURS.
AND THERE IS PERSONNEL THERE DURING NORMAL BUSINESS HOURS.
THE GIRL IN THE FRONT IS THE ONE THAT ANSWERS THE RADIO.
IT SAYS, AND THAT'S WHO THEY'VE HAD A HARD TIME KEEPING IN THERE IS THAT PARTICULAR STAFF PERSON.
THE, THE CONTRACT SAYS THAT THEY MAINTAIN A MANAGER OR A MANAGER'S AUTHORITY PERSON THERE DURING ALL BUSINESS HOURS.
THAT'S WHAT SHE'S SAYING, MANAGER.
THAT'S THE PERSON WHO'S DOING MECHANIC WORK AND STUFF WORKING OUT IN THE SHOP.
IS THAT THE MANAGER OR IS THE PERSON IN THE OFFICE? THE MANAGER? NO, THE PERSON IN THE OFFICE IS JUST ADMINISTRATIVE, NOT THE MANAGER.
WHO IS THE MANAGER? THERE'S, THERE'S TWO LADIES, TWO STAFF PEOPLE IN THE TERMINAL.
ONE IS I IS EITHER OF THOSE MANAGERS? NO.
WHAT'S HE SAY? ARE YOU THAT THOSE PEOPLE, THE MANAGER? NO, NO.
I HAD LIKE TO LIKE TO ASK A QUESTION ABOUT THE HANGAR THAT GOT DAMAGED BY THE PAVING COMPANY.
ARE THEY GONNA BE RESPONSIBLE FOR IT? THEY'VE ALREADY PAID FOR IT.
AS FAR AS THE ACCESS TO THE, TO THE FACILITY FOR THE PUBLIC TO ACCESS IT.
I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT THAT.
I, AND I DO KNOW ABOUT THOSE CODES.
UM, BUT IF, IF I WERE TO FLY IN THERE TO BRING, IT WOULD BE MORE LIKE KIP, NOT ME, BUT FLYING THERE TO BRING SOMEONE THAT WAS GOING TO CONDUCT BUSINESS, GO HUNTING, GO FISHING FOR ANY REASON IN THE COUNTY, AND ONE OF THE FOLKS IN THE BACK NEEDED TO COME PICK UP THAT PERSON, CAN THEY GET ACCESS? WHAT DO THEY DO AT 6:00 PM YOU MEAN AFTER BUSINESS HOURS? THE PERSON WOULD HAVE TO USE THEIR UNICOM FREQUENCY CODE TO GO THROUGH THE GATE AND WALK THROUGH.
HOW DO THEY KNOW THE GATE CODE TO GET IN? YOU CAN'T GIVE OUT THAT FREQUENCY CODE THEN ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC COULD DRIVE THROUGH THE AREA.
YEAH, THAT WOULD BE THE PILOT WHO FLEW 'EM IN.
WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR OPENING THAT GATE.
BUT THE, THE POINT OF IT IS, IS, IS WE REALLY HAVE A FACILITY THAT LOCKS THE PUBLIC OUT THE WAY.
NO, I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE A FACILITY THAT LOCKS THE PUBLIC OUT.
I THINK THE PUBLIC HAS ACCESS TO THE FACILITY.
COULD, COULD THE FACILITY BE DESIGNED BETTER SO THAT THERE WOULD BE AN EASY ENTRANCE THIS SIDE OF THE GATE FOR PEOPLE TO WALK IN? ABSOLUTELY.
AND THAT'S IN THE REDESIGN OF THE TERMINAL AND DEFENSE.
BUT FUNDING DOESN'T ALLOW FOR THAT JUST YET.
UM, I, I REALLY HAD THESE QUESTIONS TO BE AS OUR, UH, AS OUR SEVEN C, BUT WE'RE
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STILL IN SIX HERE.BUT DOES, UH, CHAD, ANY QUESTIONS? SO COMING, ANYTHING TO FOLLOW UP ON? I'M GOOD SO FAR, RICHARD.
UM, VICKI, ANYTHING FURTHER FOR YOU AT THIS TIME? NO, SIR.
NOT UNLESS YOU HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS OF ME.
I'VE TRIED TO GIVE LIKE AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT MY PRIORITIES WERE WHEN I TOOK THIS POSITION OVER AND HOW WE, I WANT YOU TO HAVE AN IDEA THAT, YOU KNOW, THE CIP AND WHAT WE DO IS, IS DE IS A, A FOCUSED APPROACH, NOT JUST SCATTERED AROUND AND, AND, YOU KNOW, NOT MY PLAN, IT'S, IT'S WITH THE FAA AND THE SOUTH CAROLINA AG COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATIONS.
SO SOME OF THIS STUFF MS. WILLIAMS MIGHT HAVE KIND OF PUT YOU IN A PICKLE SOMETIME.
DO YOU HAVE ANY, UM, PRIOR AVIATION KNOWLEDGE AHEAD OF HAVING THIS JOB? NO, SIR.
BUT I DON'T THINK FOR THE DAY-TO-DAY OPERATION OF THE AIRPORT THAT NEITHER DID THE, NEITHER HAS THE LAST TWO AIRPORT MANAGERS HAD THAT, BUT I KNOW, I MEAN, I WOULDN'T THINK THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE A REQUISITE REQUISITE THAT I'D HAVE TO BE A PILOT.
THE THING ABOUT IT IS I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T ASK YOU IF YOU WERE A PILOT.
I ASKED YOU IF YOU HAD ANY PRIOR AVIATION KNOWLEDGE.
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NOW WOULD BE SEVEN.UH, DID I GET IT MIXED UP? TRY TO GET IT STRAIGHT.
UM, WE HAVE, UM, MS. PETINO WITH US, OUR REPRESENTATIVE OF THE HOUSE, AND, UM, WELCOME AND, UH, PROCEED WITH ANY, ANY COMMENTS, WHATEVER YOU SHARE WITH US.
UM, FIRST OF ALL, I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU TO ALL OF YOU FOR SERVING IN THIS CAPACITY.
I THINK THAT CLARATON COUNTY CAN REALLY GROW IF WE CAN GET OUR AERONAUTICS COMMISSION TO BE PAYING ATTENTION AND, AND TO HELP US GET OFF THE GROUND.
SO SOME OF THE COMPLAINTS THAT WERE BROUGHT TO SENATOR ZELL AND I WHEN WE DECIDED TO MOVE IT BACK UNDER THE GOVERN GOVERNOR'S APPOINTMENT WAS, YOU KNOW, LACK OF STAFF, UM, NO ACCESS FOR THE PUBLIC EQUIPMENT NOT WORKING AS IT SHOULD BE.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY WANTED TO TAKE A DEEP DIVE AND WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT BOARD MEMBERS KNEW THE BACKGROUND AND HOW IT WORKS AND ALSO HAD A BUSINESS SENSE, WHICH I THINK MOST OF YOU GUYS DO DO.
AND SO WE'RE GRATEFUL TO HAVE YOU.
CONGRATULATIONS, UM, MR. CHAIRMAN ON YOUR POSITION AND VICE CHAIRMAN.
AND, UM, I WILL SAY THAT I ALSO AM NOT A PILOT OR HAVE AVIATION EXPERIENCE, BUT I DID BIRTH ONE.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DID WANNA COME HERE TONIGHT TO ACTUALLY DISCUSS THOUGH, IS ONE OF THE OTHER IMPLICATIONS THAT WAS KIND OF BROUGHT TO US AS WELL IS THAT THIS WAS JUST AN ADVISORY BOARD.
UM, SO I DID A DEEP DIVE, STARTED LOOKING INTO THE LAW AND ACTUALLY REACHED OUT TO THE STATE AERONAUTICS COMMISSION AS WELL AND GOT SOME FEEDBACK AND I JUST KIND OF WANTED TO LAY OUT WHAT THEY FOLLOWED UP WITH ME, IF THAT'S OKAY WITH YOU GUYS.
I PROMISE IT WON'T TAKE BUT A MINUTE.
UM, BUT IT SAYS THAT THE CLAREDON COUNTY AERONAUTICS COMMISSION HAS EXPRESSED STATUTORY AUTHORITY TO ENTER INTO AGREEMENTS WITH FEDERAL AND STATE GOVERNMENT PRIVATE PARTIES RELATED TO ESTABLISHMENT, OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE OF AN AIRPORT IN CLAREDON COUNTY.
THEY CAN ACQUIRE REAL PROPERTY BY GRANT, PURCHASE, LEASE OR CONDEMNATION.
UH, THEY CAN LEASE PROPERTY AND ENTER INTO CONTRACTS WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND ALSO PROMULGATE RULES AND REGULATIONS AND ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE OPERATIONS OF DAY-TO-DAY AS FAR AS THE AIRPORT GOES.
SO I JUST KIND OF WANTED TO LAY THAT OUT.
ANOTHER THING THAT IT SAYS THAT THERE IS NO LANGUAGE ENTITLED 55 OF THE STATE LAW THAT RESTRICTS THE RIGHTS AND POWERS OF COUNTY AIRPORT COMMISSIONS TO ACT SOLELY AS AN ADVISORY BODY FROM THE REVIEW FROM THE LAWYER AT THE ACTUAL STATE COMMISSION.
IT APPEARS THAT THE LEGISLATURE HAS GIVEN THE CLAREDON COUNTY AIRPORT COMMISSION AUTHORITY AND JURISDICTION THAT IS BEYOND THAT OF AN ADVISORY BODY, ALMOST LIKE A SPECIAL PURPOSE DISTRICT LIKE YOU WORK IN YOUR OWN CAPACITY.
UM, SO I KIND OF WANTED TO LAY THAT OUT JUST BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT.
UM, DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME ON WHAT YOU'D LIKE TO SEE OR HOW I CAN HELP AND BE OF ASSISTANCE? AND I, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY TOO, UM, JUST BASED OFF THE CONVERSATION THAT'S BEEN HAD TONIGHT, I WONDER IF THE CONTRACTS THAT THE COUNTY HAS, WERE THEY ENTERED IN THROUGH THE COMMISSION OR THROUGH THE COUNTY? AND I'D LIKE TO SEE HOW THAT'S KIND OF LAID OUT AND WONDER IF THAT WOULD EVEN HOLD UP AT THIS POINT.
UM, UH, WELL, IT HAPPENED BEFORE, UM, REALLY BEFORE ANYONE IN THIS ROOM, I SUPPOSE WAS HERE, RIGHT? HOW THAT CONTRACT WAS, UH, 11 YEARS AGO, I BELIEVE, PAUL, IS THAT CORRECT? UH, THERE IT'S BEEN A MINUTE.
UM, SO I BELIEVE THAT CONTRACT WOULD BE BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND THE, THE OPERATORS OF PRECISION AIR IS WHAT I BELIEVE AT THIS TIME.
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PETINO, IF I COULD, IF YOU HAVE A FEW MINUTES TOMORROW, WILL YOU GIVE ME A CALL? UM, THERE'S A ITEM OR TWO THAT I NEED TO RUN BY YOU IF YOU GET A MINUTE.SORRY, I'M BOGARTING THE COMMISSION TIME FOR COUNTY BUSINESS.
UM, MS. LINA, I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.
I'M JUST, UM, GRATEFUL FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF US AND, AND THE DESIRE AND DIRECTION OF TRYING TO MAKE OUR COUNTY A BETTER PLACE TO LIVE.
I HOPE WE CAN CONVEY TO ALL THE PEOPLE THE IMPORTANCE OF THE AIRPORT.
I KNOW IN MY TIME AS BEING AN AVIATOR, THERE'S, THERE'S TIMES WHEN, UH, CERTAIN SECTORS OF THE POPULATION DON'T UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF IT, BUT IT, IT REALLY DOES DRIVE OUR ECONOMY.
IT DRIVES BUSINESSES, IT DRIVES OUR, UH, IT, IT JUST DRIVES EVERY ASPECT OF OUR COUNTY THAT SOMETIMES PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND EVEN TOURISM.
UM, SO I HOPE WE CAN, CAN BRING THAT OUT AND, AND MAKE IT BETTER FOR US.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I OVERHEARD AS WELL WHILE SITTING IN THE MEETING WAS, UM, FUNDING RESTRAINTS.
SO IF THERE'S ANY WAY THAT I CAN SUPPORT YOU GUYS THROUGH STATE APPROPRIATIONS, I'M ALSO HERE TO DO THAT.
THE MORE FUNCTIONAL OUR AIRPORT IS, THE MORE WE CAN BRING IN BUSINESS AND TOURISM.
UM, AND I I WANNA HOPE THAT WE CAN BRING SOME CLARITY TO THAT, THAT, THAT ALL THE FOLKS OF THE COUNTY UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN THESE BUSINESSES COME, THEY EMPLOY PEOPLE OF ALL WALKS OF LIFE AND THEY INCLUDE EVERYONE.
AND WHEN THEY COME, UM, AND ODDITY RIGHT NOW EVEN IS THE FARMERS THAT ARE PARTICIPATING IN THE PROGRAMS FOR, I'M NOT A HUNTER, BUT FOR THE DUCK PROGRAMS AND THOSE, THOSE MEN AND WOMEN THAT DO THAT OFTEN MOVE BY AIR.
SO I, I HOPE WE CAN MAKE ALL OF THAT BETTER.
SO IN AN ODD SORT OF WAY, EVEN SUPPORT OUR FARMERS BY HAVING A BETTER AIRPORT SYSTEM.
CAN I PUT YOU ON SPEED DIAL? SURE.
CAN I THINK THAT WAS THE RIGHT ANSWER.
I HAVE TO GO ALONG WITH THE CHAIRMAN'S VIEW TOO, IS THAT, IN MY OPINION, BASED ON MY 40 YEARS OF BEING HERE, IS THAT IT WAS, IT WAS A FUN PLACE TO GO ON THE WEEKENDS AND, AND IT'S KIND OF GONE TO, I DON'T WANNA SAY FUNERAL, BUT IT'S NOT USED VERY MUCH.
AND THERE'S A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF BUSINESS COMING INTO THIS COUNTY.
AND IF THEY, IF THAT AIRPORT WAS WHERE THE BUSINESSES COULD USE IT, THAT WOULD FACILITATE IT.
AND I'M GONNA USE A RECENT ONE, AND THAT'S LOWE'S.
LOWE'S HAS A FLEET OF AIRPLANES, AND TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THEY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING THAT WOULD LAND HERE OR THEIR, THEIR INSURANCE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE RUNWAY LENGTH WOULD KEEP THEM FROM COMING HERE.
AND THAT'S JUST, THAT'S JUST ONE.
AND, AND THAT'S WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE IS I'D LIKE TO SEE THE AIRPORT BROUGHT BACK TO LIFE WHERE IT'S A FUN PLACE TO GO DRINK COFFEE ON THE WEEKENDS.
AND I, AND I'M GONNA, AGAIN, USE MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE.
I, I HAD AN AIRPLANE AND I SOLD IT.
I DID GET ON THE HANGAR LIST BUT DIDN'T GET IN, UM, BEFORE I SOLD IT.
BUT I, IN THE LAST THREE YEARS THAT I'VE LIVED HERE, I'VE PROBABLY CALLED IN ON THAT RADIO AT LEAST 25 TIMES AND NEVER, NOT ONCE EVER GOT AN ANSWER.
AND YOU CAN GO TO ALMOST EVERY OTHER AIRPORT IN THIS STATE IF THERE'S SOMEBODY THERE AND YOU'LL GET AN ANSWER.
SO, AND IF THAT'S THE FBI'S RESPONSIBILITY, THEY NEED TO LIVE UP TO THEIR RESPONSIBILITY.
SO I'D LIKE TO SPEAK TO ALSO JUST A MOMENT, MS. WILLIAMS AND, AND WALT ABOUT THE APPROACHES.
AND, AND VICKI, ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I ASKED YOU ABOUT THE AVIATION IS BECAUSE THE APPROACHES ARE EVERYTHING.
AND IT'S ODD AS THAT SEEMS. I SPOKE TO A GENTLEMAN THIS AFTERNOON THAT FLEW MANY YEARS FOR STONE CONTAINER.
AND WHEN THEY COME AND LOOK AT A SPOT MANY TIMES, THE FIRST QUESTION IS, CAN WE LAND THERE? AND WHEN THE PILOT REPORTS, THERE'S NO APPROACHES TO CLARENDON COUNTY, THEY'RE GONE TO THE NEXT SPOT BECAUSE THERE'S NO APPROACHES TO THAT AIRPORT.
THEY'RE NOT BRINGING BUSINESS.
AND CURRENTLY WE DO NOT HAVE AN APPROACH TO THAT AIRPORT.
IT'S VERY SAD THAT WE LET THAT SLIP AWAY.
IT'S, THERE'S, THERE'S NO APPROACH THERE.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO PUT SOME VERY DRIVEN IMPORTANCE ON IT.
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AND MS. PETINO, THAT MIGHT BE A PLACE WE HAVE TO GET SOME FUNDING AND HELP FOR.UM, YOU TALKED ABOUT THE FAA BUDGET, I BELIEVE THERE'S A FEE TO GET THAT INSPECTION DONE.
MR. ZA IS VERY FAMILIAR WITH THAT AS, AS HE USED TO PERFORM THOSE INSPECTIONS.
BUT WE LOST THOSE APPROACHES THAT WERE VERY GOOD AND VALID, USABLE APPROACHES.
AND SO WE HAVE AN AIRPORT RIGHT NOW THAT'S IN MANY WAYS DANGEROUS.
SO I, I WOULD LIKE US TO REALLY PUT SOME, SOME EMPHASIS ON GETTING APPROACHES.
UM, IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH FLYING IN AVIATION, UM, IT'S A VERY MISCONCEPTION THAT AT NIGHT THE AIRPORT'S EASY TO SEE.
BUT IN FACT, 10 MILES OUT, FOUR OR 5,000 FEET, WHAT DOES AN AIRPORT LOOK LIKE? A BLACK HOLE WITHOUT AN APPROACH TO IT.
IT'S DANGEROUS EVEN IN VFR CONDITIONS.
SO I, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO BRING THAT TO, TO NOTE ABOUT, I KNOW THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION IN YOUR OVERVIEW ABOUT THE APPROACHES AND, UM, MAYBE MS. PINO CAN HELP US ADVANCE THAT A LITTLE QUICKER.
[8. Schedule for Commission meetings: Commission Chair]
OUR LIST IS, UH, SCHEDULE OF MEETINGS, UM, AT, AT THE PLEASURE OF, OF THE COMMISSION.UM, I, THERE MAY COME A DAY WHEN WE COULD EXTEND THIS OUT, BUT GIVEN THIS TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF INFORMATION, UM, I'D LIKE TO SUGGEST THAT WE, WE MEET AT LEAST FOR THE ONSET OF THIS AT LEAST ONCE EVERY 30 DAYS, AND TRY TO MOVE THROUGH SOME OF THIS, UM, MAIDS OF INFORMATION SO THAT WE CAN PERFORM AND, AND, AND BE GOOD, GOOD STEWARDS OF WHAT WE'RE CHARGED TO DO.
THIS IS THE FOURTH WEDNESDAY OF THE MONTH.
UM, MR. LAN, I MIGHT CALL TO YOU TO CHECK SOME SCHEDULES.
NONE OF THIS HAS TO BE IN STONE, BUT WE AT LEAST NEED TO SET THE NEXT MEETING AND, AND, AND MOVE TOWARD A EXCUSE A, A, A LONGER SCHEDULE.
UM, MR. CHAIRMAN, I DON'T KNOW OF ANY REGULARLY SET MEETINGS ON WEDNESDAYS.
UM, I THINK GOVERNMENTAL BODIES IN PARTICULAR TRY TO AVOID WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON.
UM, A LOT OF PEOPLE LIKE TO GO TO CHURCH ON WEDNESDAY, BUT IF IT PLEASES THE COMMISSION, WE CAN CERTAINLY, WE CAN CERTAINLY HOLD IT.
I DON'T THINK THERE WOULD BE, CAN AT LEAST START LITTLE TO NO CONFLICT.
UM, MOST OF OUR NORMAL SET MEETINGS ARE ON MONDAYS AND TUESDAYS.
I DON'T THINK THE ROOM WOULD BE BOOKED BY ANY MEANS.
UM, BUT I CAN VERIFY WITH OUR CLERK.
SHE HOLDS THE, THE SCHEDULE FOR THE ROOM ROOM.
AND I CAN, WE CAN HAVE STAFF GET BACK WITH THE COMMISSION AND LET EVERYBODY KNOW IF THAT'S OKAY OR NOT.
UM, DO WE NEED A MOTION OR A MOVEMENT ON THAT OR JUST, UH, AN INFORMAL PRESENTATION FOR THAT AT THIS TIME? IS THAT SATISFACTORY? UM, I WOULD SAY LET'S FORMALIZE IT AT THE NEXT MEETING, BUT RIGHT NOW WE'RE ASKING FOR VERIFICATION THAT IT IS A GOOD DAY.
UM, AND SO I THINK LET'S FORMALIZE IT AT THE NEXT MEETING, BUT I WOULD SUGGEST LET'S GO AHEAD AND FORMALLY SCHEDULE THE NEXT MEETING FOR THE THIRD WEDNESDAY OF MAY 3RD.
SO WE'RE GONNA, GONNA CLOSE TONIGHT WITH THE UNDERSTANDING OF THE FOURTH WEDNESDAY IN MAY.
YEAH, WELL, I THINK LET'S, LET'S TAKE A, A VOTE, UH, TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S OKAY WITH THAT.
UM, CALL FOR A MOTION TO TAKE A VOTE ON.
I MAKE A MOTION FOR, UH, MEETING, WHICH WOULD BE, HOLD ON, MR. CHAIR.
MAY 27TH, 6:00 PM IS THERE A SECOND FOR THAT? SECOND.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THAT? AYE.
UM, MY THANKS TO EVERYONE THAT CAME AND LOOKED AND TOOK INTEREST IN THIS.
I HOPE WE CAN BUILD THIS UP TO A POINT THAT IT, IT BRINGS A, A BIGGER CROWD IN THE ROOM OF INTERESTED PEOPLE.
AND, UM, IN MY TENURE OF FLYING SINCE 1987, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME TO MY KNOWLEDGE THAT THERE'S BEEN AN AIRPORT MEETING HELD OPENLY LIVE IN THE PUBLIC.
AND, UM, AND I'M, AND I'M GRATEFUL FOR THAT, THAT THAT WAS A PART OF THIS LATEST LEGISLATION.
I THINK IT'LL HELP, IT'LL HELP IN THE FURTHERANCE OF IT AND IT'LL HELP TAKE AWAY SOME OF THE SKEPTICISM THAT WE CAN MEET IN OPEN PUBLIC AND, AND DISCUSS THESE ISSUES.
UM, DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING FURTHER FOR THE BETTERMENT OF OUR COMMISSION FOR TONIGHT? MAY I ASK YOU, MS. JONES,
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ARE YOU TAKING MINUTES? I NOTICED YOU'RE WRITING A LOT.I'M TAKING PICTURES, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO ASK A QUESTION.
I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR Y FOR GIVING YOURSELF TO SERVICE.
AND SIR, COULD YOU, COULD YOU IDENTIFY YOURSELF PLEASE? MY NAME IS GEORGE E FLASH.
I WAS GOING DECEMBER 9TH, 1952 AFTER LITTLE COTTAGE, SOUTH CAROLINA.
SO I'M LIFELONG RESIDENT OF PLAN CONDUCT.
NOW I WANT MEET THE GENTLEMAN THAT'S OUT TO LOOK BEFORE LEAVE
MR. CHAIRMAN, I'D LIKE TO MAKE AN OBSERVATION.
I WASN'T TRYING TO DISRUPT THE MEETING.
THE VICE PRESIDENT'S NAME WAS THE VICE CHAIR'S NAME.
THE VICE CHAIR VICE IS MR. HE'S MR. STEVEN ZA.
AND I ASKED THE YOUNG LADY HERE BECAUSE IF SOMEONE JUST, I, I'M FORMER CHAIR SCHOOL BOARD CHAIR, IF SOMEONE ASKS A QUESTION, TAKE THE TIME OUT, EITHER AUTOMATICALLY REPEAT IT, I WOULDN'T CARE AS WELL AS I USED TO BE HERE BECAUSE I'M A VIETNAM VETERAN AND ALL THESE EXPLOSIONS AND STUFF HAVE MESSED WITH MY EARS.
THAT'S WHY I CAME UP FRONT SO I COULD TO HEAR.
UM, Y'ALL WHO HAVE VOLUNTEERED WHATEVER, HOW ARE Y'ALL CHOSEN BY OUR COUNTY DELEGATION? THAT IT, WE DEAL WITH THAT AND WE THANK YOU FOR GIVING THE TIME BY I FLOW FLYERS HIGH.
Y'ALL MENTIONED Y'ALL GIVING US ABOUT FINAL DOCK GOING BY BURG JOHNSON.
IT WAS A, IT WAS A MONEY DEAL AND SOME OF THOSE QUEENS CRASHED GOING TO VIETNAM.
NOW THERE'S MR. ROCK, MR. ROCK LEAVING HERE WHO IS ALSO A VIETNAM VETERAN.
SO HE CAN ATTEST TO WHAT I SAY.
SO NOW IT'S KIND OF BAD WHEN YOU GOING TO VIETNAM AND YOU SCARED AIN'T GOING BE NOW I FLEW BACK, I FLEW FIND GOD, AND, AND I WANNA THANK THE LORD THAT HE ALLOWED ME TO MAKE TO BACK HOME.
THANK, THANK, THANK FOR YOUR SERVICE SIR.
I WOULD LIKE TO THANK BOTH OF YOU FOR SERVICE AND I UNDERSTAND 69 AND 70 IS WHEN I WAS THERE AND I CAN'T HEAR NOTHING EITHER.
ANY, ANYTHING FURTHER? SO I WAS JUST ASKING ABOUT MINUTES FOR THIS MEETING IF, IF MS. JONES WAS MAYBE RECORDED.
DOES ANYONE THINK WE ESTABLISHED? WELL THE MEETING ITSELF WILL BE RECORDED.
UM, AND WE WILL, WE WILL DEFINITELY WORK ON THOSE MINUTES.
SO STAFF WILL FOR THE NEXT MEETING, WORK ON MINUTES.
SO WE'LL HAVE A SET OF MINUTES FOR OUR NEXT MEETING.
ANYTHING ELSE? SO WE NEED A MOTION FOR AN ADJOURNMENT.