* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. SIX. THEY'RE [00:00:01] ALL VERY GOOD. [Clarendon County Aeronautics Commission on June 24, 2026.] GOOD EVENING, AND, UM, GLAD TO HAVE YOU GUYS WITH US. THANK YOU FOR COMING. GLAD TO HAVE Y'ALL OUT THERE WITH US. IT WAS GREAT. GLAD TO HAVE YOU WITH US. AND, UM, HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET THIS GOING IN SUCH A WAY THAT WE'LL GET AN ON RUN AUDIENCE AS WE, UH, AS WE MOVE ALONG. I THINK WE'RE MAKING SOME GOOD PROGRESS HERE. SO WE'RE, UH, WE'RE CALLED TO ORDER, AND, UM, KI PRATT'S GONNA HAVE THE INVOCATION FOR US, AND THEN WE WILL STAND FOR THE AL EGI. LET'S, LET'S RISE FOR THE VOCATION. LET'S DO THE, UH, LORD'S PRAYER IF EVERYONE'S WILLING. OKAY. I, FATHER LORD, HOW KICKING WILL BE DONE GIVES. FORGIVE OUR TRESPASSES, TRESPASSED AGAINST, IT'S NOT DICTATION. KINGDOM POWER IN THE GLORY FOREVER PLEDGE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC, WHICH STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. UM, NEXT ON OUR AGENDA IS TO APPROVE OUR AGENDA FOR TONIGHT'S MEETING. SO WE NEED A, A MOTION FOR THAT. I MOTION TO APPROVE, UH, THE AGENDA. SO, UH, FIRST BY MR. STEVE ZALAR AND A SECOND BY ROSS APPLETON. UM, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR A AYE. ANY OPPOSED? YES. UM, THE NEXT THING WOULD BE THE APPROVAL OF OUR PREVIOUS MEETINGS. MINUTES. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION, CORRECTIONS, DELETIONS, ADDITIONS FOR OUR PREVIOUS MEETING MINUTES, I DID NOT SEE ANY. ALRIGHT. OKAY. HEARING NONE. A, A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE MOVE APPROVAL. SO A FIRST FIVE, PERHAPS SECOND WITH, UH, CHAD AND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. A OPPOSED A CARRIES. UM, FELLAS, THIS, THIS MEETING TONIGHT IS REALLY GONNA BE A, UM, A BUNCH OF INFORMATION FOR US. NOT REALLY ANYTHING OF ANY, UH, TO TAKE ANY ACTION ON, BUT, BUT WE DO NEED TO GET TOGETHER AND, AND HAVE THIS, THIS MEETING AND THIS OPEN FORUM. UM, SO AT THE LAST MEETING WE HAD PRESENTED A, A, A DRAFT SET OF BYLAWS TO THE COUNTY AND THEN, UM, HAD SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT. UM, STEVE AND I MET WITH WALT, ALONG WITH, UM, REPRESENTATIVE PINO, AND, AND WE HAD PRETTY LENGTHY DISCUSSION ABOUT IT. HE SENT A SET BACK TO US AND, UM, AND I PROVIDED THAT TO YOU GUYS JUST FOR INFORMATION. IT WAS A LITTLE LATE IN THE GAME AND I DON'T THINK IT WAS, UM, TIMELY ENOUGH FOR US TO, TO DISCUSS IT OR ACT ON IT IN ANY WAY AT THIS MEETING. UM, MY MY FEELING IS, IS THAT WE WOULD NEED TO, UH, JUST ACCEPT THAT AS INFORMATION AT THIS TIME THAT WE WOULD, UM, WORK THROUGH THAT GOING FORWARD AND MAYBE BEFORE OUR NEXT MEETING. UM, AND, AND THAT MAYBE WE, UM, GET SOME OTHER GUIDANCE ON THAT SO THAT WE GET A REALLY GOOD DOCUMENT FOR EVERYONE. SO THAT'S JUST, UM, ALSO AS A MATTER OF INFORMATION ON, WE, WE HAVE NOT YET ELECTED, UM, THE, THE, THE FINISHED ELECTION OF OFFICIALS FOR OUR COMMISSION. UM, AND SO DEPENDING ON HOW THOSE BYLAWS SHAKE OUT AND HOW WE APPROVE THOSE, UM, WE WILL NEED TO BE THINKING ABOUT, UM, HAVING A SECRETARY FOR IT AND, AND HOW THAT WE ATTACH THAT INTO US AND THE COUNTY AND THAT WE CAN MOVE IN A, IN A POSITIVE DIRECTION. UM, THE FINANCIAL INFORMATION, I MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM. THE, THE FINANCIAL INFORMATION. I RECEIVED A GOOD BIT MORE, UM, FROM THE COUNTY. AND I'VE, AND I'VE REQUESTED MORE IN FOLLOWING TO THAT, UM, ONE THAT PERHAPS WE COULD GET A LITTLE MORE DETAIL ON IT AND THAT WE COULD ALSO RECEIVE THE, UH, THE INCOME SIDE OF IT, UH, COLLECTIONS AND WHAT THE POTENTIAL SHOULD BE AND, UM, AND THAT MAYBE WE COULD GET THAT EXPENDITURE SIDE PRESENTED IN, UM, IN BOTH THAT [00:05:01] BUDGET FORMAT, WHICH IS WHAT WE WILL HAVE TO WORK THROUGH AS WE MOVE FORWARD. AND WE WORK WITH THE COUNTY OFFICIALS, THEY WILL, AS THEY WORK INTO THE NEXT BUDGET SESSION THAT, THAT I, THAT I FEEL THAT WE'LL BE A PART OF. WE WILL HAVE TO BE IN THAT FORMAT, BUT PERHAPS WE CAN GET IT TO REVIEW IN A LITTLE MORE OF A STANDARD MAN'S BUSINESS PROFIT AND LOSS FORMAT THAT WE CAN DISSEMINATE A LITTLE MORE EASILY. AND, UM, AND, AND HOPEFULLY CAN PROVIDE SOME GUIDANCE AND DIRECTION, UM, AS WE MOVE FORWARD IN THAT. THE, UM, THEY PRESENTED US WITH THESE, UH, COPIES OF THESE, UH, MOVING TO THE NEXT, UH, THE NEXT NEXT ITEM, THEY PRESENTED US WITH THESE COPIES OF THESE, UH, NOTIFICATIONS AND, UH, IT, IT, IT SEEMED LIKE IT WAS IN, IN GOOD ORDER TO ME AND, AND I TAKE IT FROM THIS THAT THEY HAVE, UH, PRESENTED THESE, MAILED THEM OUT TO THE TENANTS. SO I THINK KIP I THINK YOU WERE PART OF THAT INSPECTION AND TOOK THE, THE NOTES FOR THAT. SO MAYBE PERUSES THAT AND SEE HOW WE, DID YOU, HAVE YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD ABOUT THAT AT THIS? UH, JUST FOR THE RECORD, MAYBE THE FACT THAT THERE ARE 25, 26 HANGERS AND 17 OF THEM ARE IN VIOLATION MM-HMM . THERE'S A PROBLEM. RIGHT? SO I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT ON THERE. YEAH. WELL, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK AS A, JUST MAYBE I'LL WAIT AND COMMENT AT THE YEAH, THAT'S ALL I WANT TO SAY AT THE END OF IT. AND I DID GET TO LOOK THROUGH A LITTLE BIT OF THEM HERE THAT, UM, I'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT 'EM CLOSER, BUT RIGHT. COMPARE WITH MY NOTES. YEAH. I THINK IT'S, UH, FROM WHAT I READ AND SAW, IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S GOOD REPRESENTATION. IT'S, AND IT'S A, AND IT'S A TREMENDOUS MOVE IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. IT IS, YEAH. MAKE PROGRESS. YEAH. UM, THE, THAT, THAT WILL MOVE, MOVE FURTHER AND PERHAPS WE WILL NOW BE ENGAGED IN SOME OTHER CONVERSATION SURE. UM, IN THE, IN THE NEXT 30 DAYS OR SO TO COME, BUT WE'LL, WE'LL TAKE THAT AS IT AS IT COMES AND DEAL WITH IT APPROPRIATELY. UM, AS TO THE FACILITY UPDATE INFORMATION, UM, I ALSO MET WALT OUT AT THE, AT THE AIRPORT AND, UM, REALLY GOOD NEWS THEY HAVE, AND I EMPHASIZE THIS, THEY'VE GOT, IT'S OUT FOR QUOTES AND THEY'RE QUOTING THE, UM, THE ACCESS TO THE TERMINAL BUILDING ON, ON BOTH SIDES. AND THEY'RE GETTING QUOTES ON SOME FENCE RELOCATION TO ALLOW THAT AS, AS WE HAVE, HAVE SPOKE ABOUT AND, AND REQUEST. AND I THINK THEY'RE ALSO QUOTING A LITTLE CHANGE IN SOME PARKING SPACE. SO THEY WOULD HAVE PARKING SPACE ON THE EXTERIOR OF THE GATE, ON THE PUBLIC SIDE OF THE GATE, IF YOU WILL, AND MAINTAIN SOME PARKING SPACE ON THE SECURE SIDE OF THE GATE. SO, UM, I TAKE ALL OF THAT AS, AS, AS WONDERFUL NEWS AND THAT THEY'RE, UH, I THINK THEY'RE ALSO WORKING ON THE ACTUAL GATE ACTUATOR ITSELF AND TO GET THE, THE KEY PADS IN SYNC FOR THE, THE VEHICLE ACCESS TO MAN WALK THROUGH ACCESS AND THE ACCESS TO THE TERMINAL FACILITY. UM, SO THAT'S ALL GOOD NEWS. WE'LL, WE'LL ACCESS TO SEE WHERE THOSE COME BACK. THE, THE NEXT ON THE AGENDA IS, UM, AS I PUT THAT, THIS TIME IT'S TO AND FROM OUR, OUR COUNTY OFFICES. AND I WAS REPORTED TODAY THAT THE LETTERS HAVE GONE OUT TO THE FAA AND THE AIR COMMISSION, UM, TO CLEAR UP THE, THE COMMISSION AND THE MEMBERS. UM, AND ALSO I WAS TOLD THAT THE WEBSITE WAS PERHAPS UPDATED TODAY. I DID NOT LOOK AT IT ON THIS DAY, BUT I THINK THEY'RE UP TO THE COUNTY WEBSITE FOR THAT. UM, THEY HAVE REQUESTED FROM US THAT, THAT WE AS A COMMISSION FORM SOME SUBCOMMITTEES, AND I THINK THAT'S APPROPRIATE FOR US MOVING FORWARD AND WORKING IN COLLABORATION WITH THE COUNTY. UM, AND SO I WANT, I WANT US TO BE THINKING ABOUT AND WORKING THROUGH, UM, PERHAPS IN THESE NEXT 30 DAYS, UM, A, A PLAN SUBCOMMITTEE. SO THEY WANT THREE, WE [00:10:01] NEED THREE PEOPLE, RIGHT? SO AT LEAST TWO, WE WOULD HOPE THAT AT LEAST TWO COULD SHOW UP AT, AT ANY CALL, UM, NECESSARY MEETING. BUT WE WANT SOME, UH, COMMITTEE FOR PLANNING, A COMMITTEE FOR INSPECTIONS, A COMMITTEE FOR FACILITY OPERATIONS, AND THEN FOR LEGAL. SO WE NEED TO BE THINKING ABOUT ABOUT THOSE THREE, THOSE THOSE FOUR THINGS AND THAT HOW WE MIGHT CHOOSE, PICK AND CHOOSE AND DECIDE WHO WOULD LIKE TO PARTICIPATE IN WHAT, WHAT LEVEL. AND SO THAT, SO THAT WE'RE ALL DOING THINGS THAT WERE, THAT WERE DESIROUS TO DO. UM, I TOLD YOU THIS WAS GONNA MOVE PRETTY, PRETTY QUICK THIS EVENING. THERE'S LOTS OF INFORMATION TO, TO GO THROUGH, UM, THAT I SENT AND THAT THEY LEFT WITH US. UM, WHAT DO YOU GUYS HAVE TO ADD? THAT WAS MY, MY NEXT ITEM UNDER THAT WAS TO HEAR BACK FROM YOU GUYS WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS WERE ON, ON OUR, ON OUR STATUS AND HOW WE'RE MOVING. SEE WHAT YOU HAVE TODAY. SORRY. SEE, CHAD, DO YOU, HAVE YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO NO, I GOT YOUR STUFF. I GUESS WHENEVER IT WAS, I LOOKED THROUGH MOST OF IT LAST NIGHT AND THIS TODAY'S, BUT UM, I GUESS LIKE WITH THE INSPECTION, YOU SAID 17 OUT OF YEAH, I JUST COUNTED THE, THE LETTERS HERE MM-HMM . 17 OUTTA, BUT, AND SOME OF 'EM ARE YEAH. SOME MINOR. YEAH. YEAH. THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I JUST, UM, AND THERE'S SOME MORE DETAILS TO SOME OF THESE THAT THE LETTER DIDN'T REALLY GO INTO THAT AND ALL THE TENANTS HAVE BEEN, THEY HAVE 30 DAYS TO FIX EVERYTHING. IS THAT KIND OF WHAT I, I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE LETTER YES, THAT'S WHAT I UNDERSTAND. YES. OKAY. SOME LOOK MATTER AND SOME LIKE IT'S GONNA TAKE 30 DAYS TO FIX. RIGHT. RIGHT. BUT NO, OTHER THAN THAT, I MEAN, A LOT YOU SENSE A LOT TO LOOK OVER, RIGHT? IT IS A LOT. AND IT WAS, IT WAS MORE THAN WE NEEDED TO TRY TO DISCUSS. YEAH. OKAY. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE BROUGHT IT UP. UM, BUT, UH, POSSIBLY, I KNOW IT'S BEEN DISCUSSED ABOUT, UH, UPDATING THE LEASES TO, UH, INCLUDE, UM, CERTIFICATED, UM, AND AIRCRAFT THAT ARE AIRWORTHY. AND IN THAT VEIN, I KNOW WE'VE LOOKED AT A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS. SO, UM, SOMETHING TO DISCUSS PERHAPS AT THE NEXT MEETING WITH, UM, YES. COULD BE, OR AS A SUBCOMMITTEE TO MEET WITH RIGHT. WITH THE LEGAL FOLKS OF, OF THE COUNTY AND OTHER FOLKS TO, TO DO THAT. I, I WILL TELL YOU, THERE'S SOME INTEREST, THERE IS OTHER INTEREST IN GETTING THAT CLEARED UP. SO I THINK THAT'S, I THINK IT'S MOVING IN A GOOD DIRECTION. YEAH. THE ONLY THING THAT I SAW AND JUST LOOKING AT THESE, YOU KNOW, IT SAID THE AIRCRAFT WASN'T IN COMPLIANCE AND THEY DIDN'T GO INTO IT, AND THAT'S OKAY. OBVIOUSLY WHAT I SEE IS A LOT OF FORWARD POSITIVE MOVEMENT TOWARDS, TOWARDS DOING WHAT WE ALL CAME HERE TO DO. AND THAT'S A GOOD THING. I I THINK WE HAVE TO TRADE CAREFULLY ON THE, ON THE AIRPLANES. FOR EXAMPLE, YOU GOT AN AIRPLANE IN THERE, YOU'RE DOING AN OWNER ASSISTED ANNUAL AND IT'S TAKING YOU SIX OR EIGHT WEEKS. I MEAN, I THINK EIGHT WEEKS IS PLENTY ENOUGH TIME. AND I MEAN, I'VE DONE SEVERAL MYSELF OVER THE YEARS, BUT, YOU KNOW, TWO OR THREE MONTHS. YEAH. FOUR YEARS. I THINK WHAT THEY OBSERVED IS ACCEPTABLE. YEAH. I THINK WHAT THEY OBSERVED OUT THERE WAS, WAS BLATANT OBVIOUS INACTIVITY. YEAH. THERE'S ONE AIRCRAFT THAT HASN'T SEEN THE LIGHT OF DAY IN YEARS. REALLY. IN FACT, YOU LOOK UP THE TAIL NUMBER, IT'S NOT EVEN REGISTERED AIRPLANE. YEAH. ANOTHER ONE THAT'S BEEN WRECKED AND IT'S IN PIECES. RIGHT. AND IT'S GOT DUST THAT THICK ON IT AND IT HASN'T, YOU CAN TELL IT HASN'T BEEN TOUCHED IN A LONG TIME. SO, SO YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, THE LETTER SAYS, UH, INACTIVE AIRPLANE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND IT'S, IT GOES MORE THAN THAT. YEAH. AND JUST, THAT'S WHY I SAYING THERE'S MORE DETAIL WHAT WE SAW THAN JUST THE LETTER. SO, AND IT'S HARD TO PICK THAT HARD ON IT IN A LETTER. THE ONE THAT, THE ONE THAT SHINED FOR ME WAS THE, THE GUY WITH THE PAINT BOOTH IN THERE AND PAINT. YEAH. NO AIRPLANE PAINT BOOTHS. YEAH. PAINT BOOTHS ARE NOT EASY TO PUT UP OR TAKE DOWN. MM-HMM. SO, BUT I'M GLAD ALL OF THAT'S, UH, MOVING. YEAH. IT'S ALL, IT'S [00:15:01] ALL OUT THERE AND WE'LL MAKE PROGRESS ON IT, HOPEFULLY. RIGHT, RIGHT. KI YEAH, FROM YOUR SIDE, YOU THINK WE, YEAH, I THINK WE'RE NIBBLING AWAY AT IT AND, UM, I'M WILLING TO SERVE ON ANY OR ALL OF THESE COMMITTEES, SO RIGHT. I GOT A LITTLE EXPERIENCE AND THEY CERTAINLY DON'T NEED TO ALL INCLUDE A CHAIRMAN. SO , I'LL, I'LL DO WHAT I CAN TOO. AND THEN OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS I SHOULDN'T BE FLYING A WHOLE LOT 'CAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE GOING IN FOR MAINTENANCE THE FIRST PART OF JULY AND WE'LL BE OUT FOR THREE WEEKS AND THEN THE AIRPLANE GOES FROM MAINTENANCE STRAIGHT TO STARLING, SO. YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. WELL, I, I, UM, I THINK WE'RE MAKING PROGRESS ON THAT. UH, FROM, JUST FROM MY SIDE OF THE DESK, I WOULD SAY THAT WE ARE MAKING PROGRESS. WE, WE DO HAVE A POSITIVE MOVEMENT. UM, WE HAVE, UM, WE HAVE A GROUP OF, I CALL THE GUARD OUR COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AND, AND THE COUNCIL THAT IS AT LEAST PAYING ATTENTION TO THIS AND IS CONCERNED ABOUT IT AND, AND SEES THE VALUE IN IT AND SEES THE AREAS THAT CAN BE CORRECTED AND, AND CHANGED. AND, AND WALT'S BEEN VERY GRACIOUS TO, TO GET MOVING ON THIS STUFF LATELY. SO I THINK WE'RE MAKING GOOD PROGRESS WITH, WITH THEM AND THE COMMUNITY. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S GONNA BE LIKE AFTER THESE LETTERS GO THROUGH THE MAILBOX, BUT, UM, BUT WE, WE'LL DEAL WITH IT. IT'S ALL STRAIGHTFORWARD AND TRANSPARENT. IT'S GOOD BUSINESS AND IT'S GOOD FOR THE COUNTY, IT'S GOOD FOR THE CONSTITUENTS. IT'S, IT'S GOOD STUFF FOR EVERYBODY. UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S BEEN GOOD. IT'S BEEN GOOD COMMUNICATION. UH, THAT WAS PART OF WHAT CAME FROM THE MEETING THAT, UM, THAT STEVE AND I MET WITH, WITH WALT, WITH, WITH, UM, REPRESENTATIVE PETINO THERE AS WELL. SO FROM, FROM MY DESK, I THINK WE'RE MOVING IN A GOOD DIRECTION. WE JUST GOTTA GET THE REST OF THIS STUFF IRONED OUT AND, AND IT'S GONNA BE A FLUID AND EVER GOING, EVER MOVING, EVER CHANGING, UM, SITUATION. BUT AT LEAST, AT LEAST NOW THERE'S A GROUP OF MEN WORKING ON IT. SO, UM, I, I TAKE IT AS GOOD. AND UM, AND THAT'S REALLY ALL I HAVE AS FAR AS THE CHAIRMAN'S REPORT. UM, OUR NEXT MEETING, WE'VE, WE'VE DONE TWO THAT WE'VE SET ON THE FOURTH WEDNESDAY. IS THAT STILL CONCURRENCE WITH YOU? PHONE SEX? YEAH. INTO SOME MORE ROADBLOCK WITH MY SCHEDULE WHEN IT COMES. YEAH. RIGHT. LIKE STARTING DAY OF JULY, BUT YEAH. IS THERE A, WELL, THERE'S NO BETTERS NO BETTER DAY, RIGHT? YOU CAN'T, CAN'T PICK A DAY FOR FOR WHAT OTHER FALSE YEAH, THAT'S THE THING IS UH, RIGHT. FOR WHAT THEIR INTENTION IS. ALRIGHT. THERE'S A LOT OF MOVING CARDS. YEAH. YOU GOT A DATE FOR KIP? YOU GOT A CALENDAR THERE? WHAT DID I DO? , THAT'S JULY. I'M GONE EVERY WEDNESDAY IN JULY EXCEPT FOR ONE. NO, I HAVE ONLY EVERY WEDNESDAY IN JULY. . ALRIGHT. SO IT'S GONNA BE THE 22ND. 22ND IS THE FOURTH 10TH. OKAY. RIGHT. I THINK WE NEED TO, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE GET ON A SCHEDULE AND STAY ON A SCHEDULE AND, AND TRY TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. AND WE'LL SEE IF THAT STILL STAYS UH, GOOD WITH THE COUNTY. WITH THE COUNTY. YEAH. YEAH. THAT'S A PRETTY QUICK MEETING MAN. AND THAT'S, BUT THAT'S PRETTY MUCH ALL WE WE NEED TO DO. THERE'S A LOT OF MOVING PARTS IN THE BACKGROUND AND, AND, AND THANK GOODNESS THEY'RE CONTINUING TO MOVE. DOES ANYTHING, HAVE ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING FURTHER? NOPE. THE NEXT ON THE AGENDA WOULD BE AN ADJOURNMENT. SO DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? SO WILL, SO THAT WOULD BE FROM MR. APPLETON AND A SECOND. SECOND FROM EIGHT ONE. MR. GETS A SECOND. SO ALL OF THOSE ARE IN FAVOR. WE DEPART. AYE. AYE. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.