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GOOD EVENING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, AND WELCOME TO THE SEPTEMBER MEETING OF THE CLATON COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION.
AND AT THIS TIME, UH, UH, COMMISSIONER PASTEL IS GONNA LEAD US IN OUR INVOCATION.
I WANT THANK YOU FOR EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THE SUB THIS MORNING.
THANK YOU FOR GOING BACK EACH ONE OF THE BOARD MEMBERS AND OTHER MEMBERS THAT ARE IN THIS FACILITATED TODAY.
AND WE PRAY THAT EVERYTHING THAT'S DONE, I SAID TONIGHT ON THIS AGENDA, BE DONE AND, UH, FOR THE
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UH, COMMISSIONER AS YOU RECEIVED THE, UH, COPY OF THE MINUTES FROM OUR LAST MONTH'S MEETING IN YOUR PACKET.HOPE YOU HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW IT.
IF THERE ARE ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS THAT MIGHT BE NOTED, MAY BE A GOOD TIME TO SAY SO.
IF NOT, I'D ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
I SO MOVE, HAVE, HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GRIFFITHS TO APPROVE AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER DURANT.
ANY OPPOSED? ANY AYES HAVE IT THERE BEING NO OLD BUSINESS? WE'LL
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MOVE RIGHT INTO OUR NEW BUSINESS.AND THE FIRST ITEM ON OUR NEW BUSINESS AGENDA IS PZ DASH 26 DASH FOUR SEVEN.
PATRICK AND LINDA KEEPER, ARE YOU HERE? WOULD YOU PLEASE STEP UP TO THE PODIUM PLEASE? GOOD EVENING.
AYE AND MISS, OUR DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF MS. ABONY PARKER IS GONNA READ THE APPLICATION FOR US.
THE ATTACHED PERFORMANCE ON APPLICATION HAS BEEN SUBMITTED FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEW BY PATRICK AND LINDA KEEFER.
MR. AND MRS. KEEFER ARE REQUESTING A ZONING CERTIFICATION TO SUBDIVIDE TAX MAP NUMBER 1 6 2 DASH 0 0 1 58 DASH ZERO INTO TWO LOTS.
THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED NEAR RIDGE LAKE DRIVE, MANNING, SOUTH CAROLINA.
THE PZ APPLICATION OF SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS ARE ATTACHED TO YOUR REVIEW.
THE SUBJECT PARCEL IS LOCATED IN THE PERFORMANCE ZONE DISTRICT OF CLAREDON COUNTY.
THE SUBDIVISION OF A PARCEL INTO TWO LOTS IS, IS A PERMITTED USE IN THE PZ DISTRICT, SUBJECT TO ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT REQUIREMENTS THAT THE PERFORM THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION MAY IMPOSE TO ENSURE THAT SUCH USE IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE SUBJECT PARCEL IS APPROXIMATELY ONE ACRE.
THE PROPOSAL SUBDIVIDES PARCELED INTO TWO LOTS.
BOTH LOTS WILL BE SERVICED BY PUBLIC WATER AND PUBLIC UTILITIES.
THE SURROUNDING AREA IS PRIMARILY CONSISTS OF A RURAL RESIDENTIAL AREA WITH STICK-BUILT HOMES IN THE WBU COMMUNITY NEAR THE LAKE.
THE IMMEDIATE VICINITY INCLUDES STICK-BUILT HOMES.
THE SUBJECT PARCEL IS LOCATED NEAR RIDGE LAKE DRIVE, VANNING, SOUTH CAROLINA, WHICH MAY PROVIDE SUFFICIENT ACCESS TO THE MAIN ROAD AND EASILY ACCESS TO NE NECESSARY AMENITIES.
BASED ON THE STAFF'S OBSERVATION, THE SURROUNDING AREAS PRIMARILY A RURAL RESIDENTIAL AREA WILL STICK BUILT HOMES NEAR THE LAKE.
THE PROPOSED ACRE SUBDIVISION INTO TWO LOTS IS COMPATIBLE WITH AND WILL NOT NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE CHARACTER OF THE SURROUNDING AREA.
THE PROPOSED SUBDIVISION OF THE ONE ACRE PARCEL INTO TWO LOTS IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ZONING DISTRICT AND WILL HAVE MINIMAL IMPACT ON THE SURROUNDING AREA.
POTENTIAL IMPACTS TRAFFIC NONE.
ENVIRONMENTAL AND AESTHETIC CONCERNS, NONE BUFFERING AND SCREENING NONE.
CONCLUSION AND RECOMMENDATION.
CONCLUSION, THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT STAFF HAS REVIEWED APPLICATION PZ DASH 26 DASH 47 AND DETERMINED THAT THE PROPOSED SUBDIVISION OF THE ONE ACRE PARCEL INTO TWO INDIVIDUAL LOTS MEET THE ZONING AND MINUS SUBDIVISION REQUIREMENTS.
THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENTS CONSISTENT WITH THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL CHARACTER COMPLIES WITH THE PERFORMANCE ZONE REGULATIONS.
IN ADDITION, THE PROPOSED LOT SIZE AND ACCESS ARRANGEMENTS ARE APPROPRIATE FOR THE LOCATION.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF PZ DASH 26 DASH 47 FOR THE REQUEST OF SUBDIVISION CONTINGENT UPON THE PLANNING COMMISSION DETERMINATION THAT THE PROPOSED SUBDIVISION IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA AND CONSISTENT WITH THE INTENT OF THE PERFORMANCE ZONE DISTRICT.
MR. AND MS. KEEFER, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO YOUR APPLICATION? WE JUST WANNA REPLANT IT TO, TO WHAT IT WAS ORIGINALLY WE BOUGHT, WE BOUGHT THE EMPTY LOT NEXT TO US IN 19 AND DECIDED WE'D RATHER SELL IT THAN PAY THE ANNUAL DUES.
SO WE WANNA MOVE THEM BACK TO THEIR ORIGINAL TWO LOT
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SHAPES.IS THERE ANYONE HERE IN OPPOSITION TO THIS APPLICATION? COMMISSIONERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT, UH, FOR THE KEEPERS ON THEIR APPLICATION, UNDERSTAND TAXES, WHICH YOU KNOW, WHICH WE NEED TO DO.
WHY WOULD YOU SAY THAT? WHAT'S THE PLEASURE OF, OF THE COMMISSIONERS? MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE P 20 20 26.
WE HAVE A, A MOTION TO APPROVE BY COMMISSIONER GRIFFITH AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER DURANT.
UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENT? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED? AND AYE, SA AND MR. AND MS. KEEFER, YOU CAN COME BY THE OFFICE ANYTIME, FRIDAY.
OR THEREAFTER AND PICK UP YOUR ARIZONA CERTIFICATION.
THANK YOU VERY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NEXT ON OUR AGENDA IS PZ DASH 26 DASH FOUR EIGHT BIG DUCK WATER.
UH, MS. ABO, OUR DEPUTY DIRECTOR, UH, MS. ABONY PARKER WILL READ THE APPLICATION PARTS.
THE ATTACHED PERFORMANCE ZONE APPLICATION HAS BEEN SUBMITTED FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEW BY BIG DUCK WATER FILE.
MR. THOMPSON IS REQUESTING A ZONING CERTIFICATION TO PERMIT THE PLACEMENT OF A POLE BARN WITH ELECTRIC TO BE USED FOR THE STORAGE OF FARM EQUIPMENT WITHOUT THE EXISTENCE OF A PRIMARY STRUCTURE AND A PARCEL LOCATED NEAR PITMAN DRIVE SUMMERTON, SOUTH CAROLINA.
THE PC APPLICATION SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS ARE ATTACHED FOR YOUR REVIEW.
THE SUBJECT PARCEL IS LOCATED IN THE PERFORMANCE ZONE DISTRICT OF CLAREDON COUNTY.
THE PLACEMENT OF A POLE BARN WITH ELECTRIC IS A PERMITTED USE IN THE PZ DISTRICT.
SUBJECT TO ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT REQUIREMENTS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION MAY IMPOSE TO ENSURE THAT SUCH USE IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE SUBJECT PARCEL IS APPROXIMATELY 251.0 ACRES IN SIZE.
THE PROPOSED POLE BARN WITH ELECTRIC WILL NOT BE SERVICED BY WELL OR SEPTIC.
THE SURROUNDING AREAS, PRI PRIMARILY CONSISTS OF AGRICULTURAL LAND AND WOODLANDS.
THE IMMEDIATE VICINITY INCLUDES A MIXTURE OF NATURAL WOODLANDS.
THE PARCEL IS LOCATED NEAR STATE HIGHWAY, WHICH MAY PROVIDE SUFFICIENT ACCESS FOR THE PLACEMENT OF A POLE BARN WITH ELECTRIC.
BASED ON THE STAFF'S OBSERVATION OF SURROUNDING AREAS, PRIMARILY A AGRICULTURAL AREA IN WOODLANDS, IN NATURE, THE PROPOSED USE MAY BE COMPATIBLE IF IT DOES NOT NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE CHARACTER OF THE SURROUNDING AREA.
WHILE THE SURROUNDING AREAS IS PREDOMINANTLY A RURAL AGRICULTURAL AREA, WOODLAND IN NATURE, IT MAY MAKE THE LOCATION SUITABLE FOR THE PLACEMENT OF A POLE BARN WITH ELECTRIC POTENTIAL IMPACTS.
ENVIRONMENTAL AND AESTHETIC CONCERNS NONE BUFFERING AND SCREENING NONE.
CONCLUSION AND RECOMMENDATION BASED ON REVIEW OF PZ DASH 26 DASH 48 APPLICATION STAFF FINDS THE PLACEMENT OF THE PROPOSED POLE BARN WITH ELECTRIC WITHOUT THE EXISTENCE OF A PRIMARY STRUCTURE TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE PERFORMANCE ZONE.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION ASSESSMENT IS COMPATIBLE WITH ITS SURROUNDING AREA.
MR. THOMPSON, ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO ADD TO THIS APPLICATION? NO SIR.
IS ANYONE HERE IN OPPOSITION TO THIS APPLICATION? COMMISSIONERS.
YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. THOMPSON? MR. APPROVE P 26 20 26 48? YEP.
HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE, UH, BY COMMISSIONER PROTHRO AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GRIFFITH.
ANY OTHER QUESTION OR COMMENT? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED? ANY AYES HAVE IT? MR. THOMPSON? YOU CAN COME BY THE OFFICE ANYTIME, UH, UH, FRIDAY OR AFTER AND PICK UP YOUR ZONING CERTIFICATION.
NEXT ON OUR AGENDA TONIGHT IS, UH, APPLICATION PZ DASH 26 DASH 49.
MR. WELCH, IF YOU COULD COME UP TO THE PODIUM.
OUR DEPUTY DIRECTOR, MS. EBONY PARKER WILL READ THE APPLICATION FOR US.
THE TAX PERFORMANCE ON APPLICATION HAS BEEN SUBMITTED FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEW BY JASON WELCH.
MR. WELCH IS REQUESTING A ZONING CERTIFICATION TO SUBDIVIDE TAX MAP NUMBER 1 6 0 DASH ZERO THREE DASH ZERO ZERO DASH 0 1 4 DASH ZERO INTO TWO PARCELS.
TRACK A B 0.61 ACRES TRACK B BEING 0.28 ACRES.
THE PROPERTY LOCATION IS HUDSON
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ROAD, SUMMERTON, SOUTH CAROLINA.THE PZ APPLICATION SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS ARE ATTACHED TO YOUR REVIEW.
THE SUBJECT PARCEL IS LOCATED IN THE PERFORMANCE ZONE DISTRICT OF CLAREDON COUNTY.
THE SUBDIVISION OF A 1.43 ACRE PARCEL INTO TWO INDIVIDUAL LOTS IS A PERMITTED USE IN THE PZ DISTRICT.
SUBJECT TO ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT REQUIREMENTS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION MAY IMPOSE TO ENSURE THAT SUCH USE IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE SUBJECT PARCEL IS APPROXIMATELY 1.43 ACRES IN SIZE.
THE PROPOSED SUBDIVISION OF THE 1.43 ACRE PARS WENT TO TWO LOTS.
TRACK A BEING 0.61 ACRES AGAIN, AND TRACK B BEING 0.82 ACRES.
THE INDIVIDUAL LOT TRACK A 0.61 ACRES AND THE TRACK B 0.82 ACRES WILL BE SERVICED BY PUBLIC WATER IN A SEPTIC SYSTEM.
THE SURROUNDING AREA IS PRIMARILY CONSISTS OF A RURAL AREA WITH MANUFACTURED HOMES AND STICK-BUILT HOMES NEAR THE LAKES.
THE IMMEDIATE VICINITY INCLUDES MANUFACTURED HOMES AND STICK-BUILT HOMES NEAR THE LAKE.
THE SUBJECT PARCEL IS LOCATED NEAR HUDSON ROAD IN SUMMERTON, SOUTH CAROLINA, WHICH WILL PROVIDE SUFFICIENT ACCESS TO THE MAIN ROAD AND EASY ACCESS TO NE NECESSARY AMENITIES BASED ON THE STAFF'S.
OBSERVATION AND SURROUNDING AREA IS PRIMARILY A RURAL AREA WITH MANUFACTURED HOMESICK BUILT HOMES NEAR THE LAKE.
THE PROPOSED USE MAY BE COMPATIBLE IF IT DOES NOT NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE CHARACTER OF THE SURROUNDING AREA.
THE PUL POLE SUBDIVISION OF THE 1.43 ACRE PARCEL INTO TWO LOTS, TRACK A 0.0 0.61 ACRES AND TRACK B 0.82 ACRES IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ZONING DISTRICT AND WILL HAVE MINIMAL IMPACT ON THE SURROUNDING AREA.
POTENTIAL IMPACTS TRAFFIC NONE.
ENVIRONMENTAL AND AESTHETIC CONCERNS NONE BUFFERING AND SCREENING NONE.
CONCLUSION AND RECOMMENDATION.
CONCLUSION, THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT STAFF HAS REVIEWED PZ DASH 26 DASH 49 AND DETERMINED THAT THE PROPOSED SUBDIVISION OF THE 1.43 ACRE PARCEL INTO TWO INDIVIDUAL LOTS MEET THE ZONING AND MINOR SUBDIVISION REQUIREMENTS.
THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE SURROUNDING REG RESIDENTIAL CHARACTER AND COMPLIES WITH THE PERFORMANCE ZONE REGULATIONS.
IN ADDITION TO THE PROPOSED SIZE, LOT SIZE AND ENSURES ARRANGEMENTS OF THE APPROPRIATION FOR THE LOT LOCATIONS, THE RECOMMENDED APPROVAL FOR THE REQUEST OF THE SUBDIVISION IS CONTINGENT UPON PLANNING COMMISSION DETERMINATION THAT THE PROPOSED SUBDIVISION IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDED AREA AND CONSISTENT WITH THE INTENT OF THE PERFORMANCE ZONE DISTRICT.
MR. WELCH, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU'D LIKE TO ADD TO YOUR APPLICATION? NO, SIR.
IS ANYONE HERE IN OPPOSITION TO THIS APPLICATION? OKAY.
WOULD YOU PLEASE STEP UP? MR. WELCH, IF YOU WOULD STEP AWAY FROM THE PODIUM FOR A MINUTE AND LET THIS GENTLEMAN COME UP.
WOULD YOU STATE YOUR NAME SO THE LADIES CAN GET IT IN RECORD PLEASE, SIR.
OKAY, MR. COLTON, WHAT YOUR UM, I LIVE IN THE BRICK HOME BESIDE THIS LOT THAT'S, UM, BEING PROPOSED.
UM, AND I SPEAK FOR MYSELF AND FOR MR. THOMPSON WHO LIVES IN THE BRICK HOUSE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE LOT.
UH, WE DON'T WANT A HOUSE BUILT BETWEEN US.
UM, THE LOT, THE HOUSE THAT'S BEEN STAKED OUT IS 20 FEET FROM MY BEDROOM.
I DID NOT MOVE DOWN TO THE LAKE AWAY FROM THE CITY FOR THE PEACE AND QUIET TO HAVE A HOUSE BUILT RIGHT ON TOP.
SO IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THROUGH SPEAKING WITH MR. THOMPSON, THAT HE'S OFFERED A VERY FAIR PRICE FOR THE LOT.
HE ALSO OFFERED A VERY FAIR PRICE TO THE FEMALE REALTOR THAT HAD IT PRIOR TO, UM, MR. WELCH AND WAS TURNED DOWN THEN AS WELL.
THIS IS A TWO PART, UH, ISSUE BECAUSE ONE OF THESE LOTS IS A WOODED LOT THAT SITS RIGHT BETWEEN TWO ADDITIONAL WOODED LOTS.
MY NEIGHBOR ON THE OTHER SIDE OF ME HAS OFFERED A FAIR PRICE FOR THAT WOODED LOT SO THAT HE CAN KEEP THOSE THREE LOTS TOGETHER.
HE OWNS ONE ON EITHER SIDE OF MR. WELCH'S PROPERTY.
HE WANTS THE ONE IN THE MIDDLE.
I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH THAT.
OUR WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD WANTS THE LITTLE BIT OF WOODED AREA.
WE FOUGHT A COUPLE YEARS BACK FOR THE 20 LOTS THEY WANTED TO PUT IN.
THEY REDUCED THAT TO 10 AND MY NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR ON THE OTHER SIDE WAS ABLE ABLE TO BUY TWO OF THOSE LOTS.
SO THE WHOLE PURPOSE IS WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP IT RELATIVELY RURAL.
UM, BUT I DON'T WANT A HOUSE 20 FEET FROM MY BEDROOM.
I DON'T WANNA SIT ON MY BACK PORCH AND LISTEN TO MY NEIGHBORS.
I DON'T WANNA GO TO BED AT NIGHT AND LISTEN TO MY NEIGHBORS ON THEIR BACK PORCH.
MR. THOMPSON COULDN'T BE HERE TODAY BECAUSE HE'S AT HIS CANCER DOCTOR, BUT I DID SOME RESEARCH AND I'VE LOOKED INTO LIZZIE CREEK.
I'VE LOOKED INTO CLUBHOUSE BRANCH, WHICH IS WHERE THIS PROPERTY IS, AND I BELIEVE THIS PROPERTY WAS PURCHASED FOR $63,000.
THE ONE THAT HE WANTS TO BUILD ON, UM, WOULD'VE APPRECIATED IN THE LAST THREE YEARS, APPROXIMATELY 20 TO 23%.
SO THAT MAKES THAT LOT WORTH SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 65 AND $75,000.
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MR. WELCH HAS BEEN OFFERED $80,000 FOR THAT LOT, AND FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND THAT'S BEEN TURNED DOWN.UM, THAT'S A VERY FAIR PRICE FOR THE LOT IN THAT AREA.
UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH HIM MAKING MONEY.
I APPLAUD HIM, UM, UH, DOING THE BUSINESS THAT HE DOES.
UM, BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO PURCHASE IT AND PAY TAX TO CLARENDON COUNTY WITHOUT PUTTING A HOUSE ON IT.
UM, IT USED TO BE A, JUST A PURE FIELD THAT MY NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR AND KEPT MOWED ALL THESE YEARS.
AND, UM, HE DID THAT ON HIS OWN.
HE JUST MAINTAINED THE PROPERTY AND I TOLD HIM I'D BE HAPPY TO GO IN TO HELP PURCHASE THE PROPERTY.
HE WOULD JUST LIKE TO USE IT TO PUT A RAMP ON THE PROPERTY.
HE DOESN'T HAVE A RAMP ON HIS PROPERTY AND NEITHER ONE OF US WANT A HOUSE THAT WOULD DEGRADE THE VALUE OF OUR HOMES.
WE THINK THAT PUTTING A TRAILER ON OUR LOT IS GONNA DEGRADE THE VALUE OF OUR HOMES.
AND THEN THE LAST THING I HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT IS WE HAVE A VERY LARGE PILE OF BRUSH BECAUSE HE CLEAR CUT THE ONE LOT THAT MY OTHER NEIGHBOR WANTED TO BUY FROM HIM.
AND ANOTHER PILE OF BRUSH ON A LOT BESIDE ME NOW THAT I UNDERSTAND ARE GONNA BE BONFIRES.
I DON'T WANT A BONFIRE NEXT TO MY HOUSE.
I'D LIKE MY HOUSE NOT TO BURN DOWN.
UM, SO I'M OPPOSED TO THIS THE SPLITTING OF THE LOTS UNLESS WE COULD COME TO AN AGREEMENT TO PURCHASE A LOT.
HE HAS TWO BUYERS TO BUY BOTH LOTS FROM HIM.
BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS HE DOESN'T WANNA SELL 'EM.
WE DON'T, I DON'T WANT, I DON'T WANT A BUILDING BESIDE ME.
UM, A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT YOU, YOU ADDRESSED.
WE, WE DON'T DELVE INTO VALUATION OF LOTS.
UM, WE, WE ARE PRIMARILY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND WE MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER SUBDIVIDED LAND AND THING AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE AND EVEN BUILDING ADHERE TO OUR UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE.
AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THE EXTENT OF WHAT WE DO HERE.
SO AS FAR AS VALUATION BLOCK, AS MUCH AS I CAN APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, WE DON'T DELVE INTO THAT.
UM, UH, AND AS FAR AS THE DISTANCE THAT THIS LOT MAY OR MAY NOT, IF SOMEONE WERE TO BUILD SOMETHING ON THIS LOT, AS LONG AS IT ADHERES TO THE GUIDELINES THAT ARE IN OUR UNIFORM DEVELOPMENT CODE AND OUR BUILDING CODE, THEN, YOU KNOW, UH, AS LONG AS IT DOES THAT, WE CAN'T PREVENT THAT EITHER.
UM, COMMISSIONERS, DO ANY OF YOU MAYBE HAVE COMMENTS THAT YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE, UH, UH, AFTER HEARING THE OPPOSITION TO THIS APPLICATION? I, ANYBODY ELSE? ANY, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE HERE IN OUR POSITION TO THIS APPLICATION? OKAY.
MR. WE DO YOU EVERYTHING THAT YOU WANTED TO ADD TO THAT? NO, SIR.
COMMISSIONER, WHAT MIGHT BE YOUR PLEASURE? THIS IS ABOUT A HALF.
LONG AS YOU CONFORM, RIGHT? THAT'S RIGHT.
DID AREA HAVE A RESTRICTION ON WHAT SIDE? HOW WE CAN BE BUILDING THAT PARTICULAR AREA? MM-HMM
UM, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THERE'S, ARE THERE ANY RESTRICTED COVENANTS IN THIS AREA? WE ACTUALLY HAVE AN SO WHAT HE'S TRYING TO DO, HE, HE'S JUST TRYING TO CUT IT SO HE CAN SELL SO HE CAN PUT IT OFF THE SALE OR WHAT.
I REALLY DON'T SEE WHY I'M GETTING THIS OPPOSITION.
I MEAN, I OWNED THE HOUSE BEFORE.
AT LEAST ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT'S SUPPOSED TO ME OWNED THEIRS.
I, I OWNED THAT LOT WAY BEFORE
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THEY BOUGHT THEIRS.I DON'T SEE WHAT GIVES THEM THE RIGHT TO STAY THERE AND I CAN'T, YOU KNOW.
UM, ALSO THE LOTS ARE ALL ABOUT THE SAME SIZE, SO IF MINE DOESN'T PASS, WE NEED TO REMOVE ALL THE OTHER HOUSES TOO, BECAUSE THEY'RE ON LOTS THAT ARE TOO SMALL, TOO CLOSE TO OTHER HOUSES AS WELL.
UM, I MEAN, I DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT TO SAY THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, HADN'T ALREADY BEEN MENTIONED, BUT I'VE HAD, I'VE HAD A LOT FOR A FEW YEARS NOW AND, UH, THAT WAS MY INTENTION ALL ALONG.
SO, I MEAN, IT WON'T BE, I MEAN, IT AIN'T LIKE I'M GONNA TRASH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, BUT IF, IF, IF, IF THE, UH, IF, IF THIS DOESN'T TAKE PLACE, THERE'S NO WAY TO SELL THEM INDIVIDUALLY TO THE IN INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE AFTER 'EM ANYHOW.
SO I'VE GOT TWO INDIVIDUALS INTERESTED IN THEM.
WE'VE GOT TO SPLIT 'EM TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
NOW I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S WHAT I'M GOING TO DO, BUT THAT'S GOT TO TAKE PLACE BEFORE THAT CAN HAPPEN.
UM, AND, UH, I DON'T SEE WHY I'M GETTING OPPOSITION ON SPLITTING THE LOTS WHEN THAT SEEMS TO BE THE DIRECTION THAT HE WANTS IT TO GO.
COMMISSIONERS, AND THERE'S A PAVED ROAD BETWEEN THESE TWO LOTS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SPLIT.
SO, I MEAN, THEY'RE ALREADY NATURALLY SPLIT.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER DURANT TO APPROVE, UH, PZ 26 49.
WE HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JOHNSON.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED? AND AYES HAVE IT MR. WELCH.
YOU CAN COME BY THE OFFICE AND FOR YOUR ZONING CERTIFICATION ANYTIME FRIDAY OR, OR THEREAFTER.
NEXT ON OUR AGENDA IS PZ DASH 26 DASH FIVE ZERO.
GERALD MARTIN LEE, IS ANYONE HERE? GOOD EVENING.
OUR DEPUTY DIRECTOR, MS. AVENUE PARKER WILL READ THE APPLICATION FOR US.
THE ATTACHED PERFORMANCE ZONE APPLICATION HAS BEEN SUBMITTED FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEW BY GERALD LEE.
MR. LEE IS REQUESTING A ZONE CERTIFICATION TO PERMIT THE PLACEMENT OF A GARAGE SLASH STORAGE BUILDING WITHOUT THE EXISTENCE OF A PRIMARY STRUCTURE AND A PARCEL NEAR WANDERS WAY MANNING SOUTH CAROLINA.
THE PC APPLICATION SUPPORT AND DOCUMENTS ARE ATTACHED FOR YOUR REVIEW.
THE SUBJECT PARCEL IS LOCATED IN THE PERFORMANCE ZONE DISTRICT OF CLARINET COUNTY.
A GARAGE SLASH STORAGE BUILDING WITHOUT THE EXISTENCE OF A PRIMARY STRUCTURE IS A PERMITTED USE IN THE PC DISTRICT.
SUBJECT TO ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT REQUIREMENTS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION MAY IMPOSE TO ENSURE THAT SUCH USE IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA.
THE SUBJECT PARCEL IS APPROXIMATELY 14.557 ACRES IN SIZE.
THE PROPOSED GARAGE BUILDING WILL BE SERVICED BY A PRIVATE WELL ONLY.
THE SURROUNDING AREA IS PRIMARILY A RURAL RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD NEAR THE LAKE WITH STICK BUILT HOMES AND MANUFACTURED HOMES.
THE IMMEDIATE VICINITY INCLUDES STICK BUILT HOMES AND MANUFACTURED HOMES.
THE PARCEL IS LOCATED NEAR STATE HIGHWAY, WHICH MAY PROVIDE SUFFICIENT ACCESS FOR THE PLACEMENT OF THE GARAGE SLASH STORAGE BUILDING WITHOUT THE EXISTENCE OF A PRIMARY STRUCTURE.
BASED ON THE STAFF'S OBSERVATION, ITS SURROUNDING AREA IS PRIMARILY A RURAL RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD NEAR THE LAKE WITH STICK BUILT HOMES AND MANUFACTURED HOMES.
THE POLLS USE MAY BE COMPATIBLE IF IT DOES NOT NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE CHARACTER OF THE SURROUNDING AREA.
WHILE THE SURROUNDING AREA IS PREDOMINANTLY A RURAL RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD NEAR THE LAKE WITH STICK BUILT HOMES AND MANUFACTURED HOMES, IT MAY MAKE THE LOCATION SUITABLE FOR THE PLACEMENT OF A GARAGE SLASH STORAGE BUILDING WITHOUT THE EXISTENCE OF A PRIMARY STRUCTURE ON THE PROPERTY.
POTENTIAL IMPACTS TRAFFIC NONE.
ENVIRONMENTAL AND AESTHETIC CONCERNS, NONE BUFFERED AND SCREENING NONE.
CONCLUSION AND RECOMMENDATIONS BASED ON A REVIEW OF PC DASH 26 DASH FIVE APPLICATION STAFF FINDS THAT THE PLACEMENT OF THE PROPOSED GARAGE SLASH STORAGE BUILDING WITHOUT THE EXISTENCE OF A PRIMARY STRUCTURE TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE PERFORMANCE DISTRICT PERFORMANCE ZONE DISTRICT CONTINGENT ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S ASSESSMENT OF ITS COMPATIBILITY WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA.
MR. LEE, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU'D LIKE TO ADD TO YOUR APPLICATION? UH, WE ARE GONNA PUT ELECTRIC ON IT.
UM, I DIDN'T KNOW SHE MENTIONED THAT, BUT IT'S, WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE SEPTIC, BUT WE WILL HAVE ELECTRIC, NO SEPTIC, BUT ELECTRIC, CORRECT?
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UM, YES MA'AM.DO
WE'RE GONNA BE PURCHASING PARTIAL OF THAT.
I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S STATED IN THE APPLICATION.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S GONNA BE A STAFF APPROVED USE? YES.
IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE? NO, SIR.
AND IS THERE ANYONE HERE IN OPPOSITION TO THIS APPLICATION? I I HAVE A QUESTION.
UM, WE RECEIVED SOMETHING IN THE MAIL THAT THE MEMBER MAY NOT HAVE TO DO WITH THIS.
I DON'T KNOW IF OURS IS COMING NEXT OR WHAT.
ME IS THE STORAGE YOU NEED TO COME ON UP.
WOULD YOU PLEASE COME UP TO THE PODIUM? I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THIS PERTAINS TO ME, BUT, UM, MR. DAN AND I RECEIVED A LETTER IN THE MAIL.
I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS EVEN RELATED TO THAT.
I KNOW WONDERS WAY IS KIND OF BEHIND US AND SOME OF THAT PROPERTY KIND OF JOINS UP ACROSS THE STREET FROM US.
SO IS THIS THE, UH, ADJACENT, UH, ANYTIME? YEAH, I'M NOT SURE.
SO I'M JUST, WE SEND OUT AND WE, WE SENT OUT LETTERS TO ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS MM-HMM
WHEN THERE'S A REQUEST MADE OF THIS NATURE.
BUT WE WERE THE ONLY TWO IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD THAT RECEIVED IT.
SO THIS MAY OR MAY NOT RELATE TO US.
UM, IS THERE SOMETHING BEHIND THIS ONE? IS THERE ANOTHER ONE BEHIND THIS ONE? NO, MA'AM.
UM, IT, I DON'T KNOW IF I'M AT LIBERTY TO SAY A NAME, BUT IT HAD TO DO WITH YANA MATHIS.
SO THIS IS RELATED TO THAT? YES, MA'AM.
SO HOW BIG IS THE STORAGE BUILDING AND WHERE, WHERE WOULD IT BE IN RELATE? BECAUSE, 'CAUSE LIKE I'M ON THE SAME ON THE WATERFRONT AND THEN THERE'S WOODED AREA BEHIND US.
SO JUST KIND OF CURIOUS WHAT, WHAT IT IS.
THE PROPOSED, UH, SIZE OF BUILDING IS A HUNDRED.
100 FEET LONG, SIX FOOT WIDE PAPA, SHE'S SPLITTING UP RIGHT HERE.
SO WE'RE GONNA GET SIX ACRES RIGHT IN HERE AND WE'RE GONNA BUILD IT RIGHT THERE.
SO THIS PART ON THE FRONT THAT BELONGS TO HER.
WHERE IS, UM, WHERE THIS IS WONDERS WAY? YEAH.
WHERE'S ME? WHERE IS WONDERS WAY? IS THAT THE NEXT, YOU KNOW THIS, THAT'S THE HOUSE THAT, UM, IT'S, IT'S RIGHT IF YOU, RIGHT ACROSS FROM WHERE THE FIREWORKS ARE DONE.
SO WHERE THIS IS LEMON, THERE'S THE SAME OKAY.
WAIT, WHERE'S THE SAME? COME RIGHT HERE.
DO YOU HAVE A BIGGER ONE OF THESE? MA'AM, THIS IS ALL I HAVE.
AND I ALSO NEED YOU TO STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHERE THE ENTRANCE TO THIS IS GOING TO BE.
THESE ARE PROPERTIES THAT HAVE SIMILAR, WHAT I'M PLANNING ON DOING, IF YOU KNOW THERE'S A, A STORAGE BUILDING HERE MM-HMM.
AND THERE'S A REALLY NICE STORAGE BUILDING THERE.
SO I JUST WAS SHOWING THAT THERE'S TWO, UM, YEAH, I I KNOW THAT ONE.
WHERE WOULD THIS ONE BE IN RELATION TO THAT? RIGHT HERE.
BUT WHERE IN RELATION TO THAT? SO THIS IS THIS BUILDING? NO, THIS BUILDING HERE.
AND THEN WHERE'S THE OTHER ONE GONNA BE? OURS IS GONNA BE HERE.
WAIT, IS THIS, THIS, IS THAT COMING DOWN THE SAME HERE? UH, YOU KNOW THAT AND THEN YOU, MR. UH, MR. LEE AND MS. ANDERSON? YES.
THE CONVERSATION HERE IS BETWEEN EITHER YOU AND US OKAY.
OR MR. LEE AND US OR US AND YOU AND US AND MR. LEE.
UM, WE JUST NEED A BIGGER PICTURE SO WE CAN SEE WHERE THIS IS GONNA BE.
WELL, UM, OR DO YOU HAVE A MAGNIFYING GLASS? WE DO NOT, BUT WE, UH, IF YOU'RE HERE IN OPPOSITION TO THIS, WE'LL BE GLAD TO LISTEN TO YOU.
WELL, I, I MAY BE, I OWN A $650,000 PIECE OF PROPERTY IN FRONT OF IT.
I JUST NEED TO KNOW HOW IT'S GONNA COME UP BEHIND MY HOUSE, ACROSS THE STREET.
WILL YOU BE ABLE TO SEE IT FROM? WELL, I, I, AS MUCH AS I APPRECIATE THAT MS. ANDERSON MM-HMM
IF, BUT THEN I'LL PAGE IT TILL I CAN RESEARCH IT.
IF, IF, IF WHAT HE'S PROPOSING MM-HMM
ADHERES TO THE GUIDELINES THAT ARE THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE HERE IN THE COUNTY MM-HMM
TO THIS, IT REALLY DOESN'T MATTER WHAT, UH, AND DON'T TAKE THIS WRONG, IT REALLY DOESN'T MATTER.
IT'S LIKE THE REST OF THE WORLD.
BUT, BUT, UM, UM, BUT IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'VE GOT A, IF YOU WANNA MAKE A STATEMENT IN OPPOSITION, WE'D BE GLAD TO HEAR IT.
IF YOU CAN GIVE ME TWO MINUTES TO LOOK AT THIS CLOSELY, THEN IT JUST TO LOOK AT THIS PIECE OF PAPER, GO RIGHT AHEAD.
LET ME HOLD IT THAT THIS OVER RIGHT HERE.
THIS IS, YOU GO DOWN TO HH HARDY'S THAT IS THERE MM-HMM
YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
WELL, LET, LET, WE'LL GET HIM BACK AND THEN YOU CAN COME
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AROUND THIS CURVE.HE'S, WE'VE GOT A QUESTION FOR YOU, MR. I'M, WHERE I SEE IT IS I'M IN, NOT IN OPPOSITION WHERE I SEE IT NOW.
I JUST NEEDED A MOMENT TO LOOK AT IT.
IF YOU STEP BACK TO THE PODIUM.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFITH HAS A QUESTION FOR YOU.
YOU GOTTA BUY SIX ACRE AS OF A 14 ACRE TRACK.
YOU CAN PUT A STORAGE SHED ON IT ON ONE ACRE AND LEAVE THE OTHER FIVE WOODED.
DO YOU PLAN ON EITHER DEVELOPING IT AT ANY TIME OR NO HOME? NO.
WE LIVE A 10TH OF A MILE ON LEMON AND BASICALLY WE'RE BUYING THIS TO STORE BOATS AND, UM, STUFF IN IT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? WELL, WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE ON THIS APPLICATION? APPROVED P 26 DASH 50 ASED.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GRIFFITH TO APPROVE, UH, PZ 26 50 TO SECOND BY, WE HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER PASTEL.
ANY OPPOSED? AND IT, UM, HAVE IT, AND YOU CAN COME BY MR. LEE, UH, BY THE OFFICE ANYTIME AFTER FRIDAY OR THEREAFTER, UH, AND PICK UP HIS ZONING CERTIFICATION.
UM, THERE BEING NO, NO, UH, EXECUTIVE SESSION THIS EVENING OR POTENTIAL ACTION FROM IT.
[VIII. REPORTS ]
INTO THE, UH, REPORTS AND WE'LL, I'LL ASK MS, UM, WENDY TO SHARE WITH US, UH, THE BUILDING REPORT.DURING AUGUST, 2026, OUR DEPARTMENT ISSUED 100, EXCUSE ME, 94 PERMITS.
OUR INSPECTORS COMPLETED 212 INSPECTIONS DURING THE MONTH, BRINGING THE YEAR TO DATE TOTAL TO 1,642 INSPECTIONS.
REVENUE COLLECTED FOR AUGUST AMOUNTED TO $23,609.
UH, AS FAR AS CHAIRMAN'S REPORT COMMISSIONERS, UH, YOU ALL ARE AWARE AT THIS BY THIS TIME THAT, UH, UH, THE PROPOSED MORATORIUM, UH, THAT WE HAVE PROPOSED ON, UM, DATA CENTERS HERE WITHIN THE COUNTY HAS ALREADY HAD SECOND READING.
AND THIS COMING MONDAY NIGHT, WE WILL BE HAVING, UH, THIRD READING.
THERE WILL BE A PUBLIC PARTICIPATION MONDAY NIGHT AT THE COUNTY COUNCIL MEETING.
UH, BUT IN, IN THE MAIN MEANTIME, AND AS WE PROGRESS, UH, TOWARD, UM, UM, REEVALUATING OUR, UH, GUIDELINES ON THAT, UH, ADDRESS DATA CENTERS, I WANTED TO ASK ANY OF YOU OR ALL OF YOU, WHAT, IF ANY CONCERNS THAT YOU MAY HAVE THAT YOU WOULD WANT, WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT WERE ADDRESSED AS WE, UH, REEVALUATE, UH, OUR EXISTING ORDINANCE THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE INCLUDED IN, IN, UH, IN OUR, IN THE NEW WORDING, UH, GOING FORWARD CONCERNING DATA CENTERS COMMISSIONER PRO, WHERE THE MOST IMPORTANT THING, LOCATION, I THINK THE SIZE IS, IS IMPORTANT.
I THINK THE CLOSED LOOP WATER SYSTEM IS ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL.
AND, AND I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND THE DEVELOPER AS TO WHAT HE DOES SO THAT YOU CAN'T JUST GO IN AND ADD TO IT.
UM, YOU KNOW, TWO YEARS FROM NOW.
AND THAT'S, FROM WHAT I CAN READ AND WHAT I'VE SEEN, UM, THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS.
THEY GET IN THERE AND THEN THEY START EXPANDING AND IT GETS A LOT BIGGER.
BUT IF WE PUT 'EM IN A SMALL AREA, JUST LIKE AN INDUSTRIAL PART, ONE'S GONNA BE OUT THERE THAT'S GONNA BE PERFECT.
IT'S, IT CAN'T GET MUCH BIGGER THAN WHAT IT'S, UH, AND SO THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S A GOOD DEAL AS GREAT COUNTY, UH, IT'S GONNA PAY 10% OF OUR COUNTY REVENUE, UM, OFF THE BAT.
AND, AND THAT'S, THAT'S GONNA HELP, IT'S GOING TO HELP ALL OF US EITHER THROUGH SERVICES OR PAY INCREASES OR REDUCE TAXES.
THE ELECTRICAL, WELL, I HAVE SO GO AHEAD COMMISSIONER DURANT.
ELECTRICAL, HOW MUCH POWER OR WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, IS GOING TO AFFECT OUR LOCAL POWER, OUR RATES OR WHATEVER.
WHAT, WHAT I HEARD, I, I WENT TO, I HAD A MEETING, WE HAD A, A PRESENTATION ABOUT GEORGE BUDZINSKI AND, AND THE POWER IS PROVIDED BY THE POWER, WHICH IN THIS CASE THE ELECTION.
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SO THEY HAVE TO GET A COMMITMENT FROM COOPER TO BE ABLE, SAN COOPER SAYS, I GOT TO PROVIDE YOU THIS MUCH POWER ON A, ON A YEARLY BASIS.SO, SO THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SANDY LAKE AND SANDY COOPER.
NOW, IF IT'S GONNA TAKE EXTRA POWER, THEN YES, IT COULD COST ME A NEW MONEY.
BUT GUESS WHAT? IF THIS, IF WE HAD SAID NO TO THIS DEAL, IT WOULD'VE ENDED UP IN WILLIAMSBURG COUNTY AND THEN, AND THEY'D BE GETTING FILE BID DOLLARS INSTEAD UP.
SO, SO IT WAS A GOOD THING FOR CLARINE COUNTY THIS POINT.
NOW SOME OF 'EM ARE HUGE AND, AND THEY GOT THE GOOD ONES DOWN THE CORNER.
WE DON'T WANT SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND, AND, AND THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE YOU, YOU HAVE YOUR MAIN WATER AND YOUR POWER SOURCE AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
I THINK I'M RIGHT IN SAYING THAT THEY USE ABOUT EQUIVALENT FOUR HOUSES OF WATER A DAY.
UM, YOU KNOW, AND, AND THAT AND, AND THROUGH EVAPORATION MODE AND FLUSHING THE TOILETS IN THE BATHROOM FOR THE STATE.
WELL OTHER COMMENTS, COMMISSIONER? I PLAN TO ABSO, I GOT SOMETHING PREPARED FOR THE, UH, PUBLIC COMMENTS, PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS THIRD READING.
AND UH, I THINK THAT OUR MORATORIUM, FIRST OF ALL WAS RATHER SHORT WITH SIX MONTHS.
AND, UM, THESE CENTERS, UM, THEY COME IN AND, UH, MICROPHONE, MICROPHONE, MICROPHONE.
WE, WE ARE MICROPHONE HIT THE HIT, HIT YOUR BUS.
WE ARE LOOKING AT THIS THING AND WE NOT LOOKING AT ALL OF IT.
UH, THEY COME IN AND THE STATE, THE COUNTY GETS SOME TAX REVENUES, BUT THEY GET TAX INCENTIVES.
WE GOT FIVE BIG AND BIG, BIG CENTERS NOW, TWO OF THE BIGGER ONES FOR UH, VIRGINIA.
MY SON LIVES HERE AND, UH, TEXAS.
AND UM, IN THE SAME TOKEN, WE GET THIS FEW CRUMBS AND THEN THEY HAVE FIVE STATES HAVE GOTTEN $28 BILLION TAX INCENTIVES.
NOW THEY COME IN AND YOU HEAR THIS WORD HYPERSCALE, YOU KNOW, THEY RUSHING IT.
THERE'S SOME GOOD IN IT, THEY'S SOME BAD IN IT, BUT, UM, IT'S A BIG GAMBLE.
LARRY ELLISON IS OUT FRONT WITH ORACLE.
YOU GOT, YOU KNOW, JEFF BEZOS, YOU'VE GOT ANDROS, YOU GOT, UH, NVIDIA THE GUY THAT MADE THE, THE BEST CHIP THAT WE GOT GOING NOW.
AND THEN WHEN THEY, WHEN THEY, EVEN WITH OUR WATER SYSTEMS, WE JUST IMPROVED THEM SOME YEARS AGO, SOMEWHAT.
AND A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T HAVE CITY WATER, I WOULD CALL IT WHEN THEY BOOKED THAT.
AND, AND, AND THEY COULD USE FROM A MILLION TO 5 MILLION GALLONS.
AND DON'T, GOD FORBID WE HAD A HYPER CENTER, THEN WE GOT THE NOISE POLLUTION.
UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE A KNOT IN MY BACKYARD.
WE GOT A LOT OF PLACES AND THEY PUSHING BACK HARD.
I JUST SEEN, UM, A COUPLE OUT IN THE HEARTLAND, THEY OFFERED THEM 26 MILLION AND THEY GOING AFTER FARM LAND BECAUSE THEY ALREADY GOT IRRIGATION.
UH, YOU KNOW, SO THEY ALREADY GOT A WATER SOURCE.
BUT I'M SAYING THAT WHEN WE, THEY BOOKED THIS WATER UP FROM OUR LITTLE, WE CAN'T RESELL THAT WATER DOWN THE LINE, THEN WE KNOW THAT THEY ARE POLLUTERS AND WE ONLY HAVE SO MUCH FRESH WATER.
AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT, WE HAD A LITTLE CONVERSATION, ME AND MR. LEN LEONARD, UH, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WE JUST HAD ONE BUILDING AND THERE'S SOME GOOD IN IT, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF EVIL IN IT.
IT'S UNREGULATED AND THEY ARE RUSHING TO GET THIS THING THROUGH BEFORE WE CAN HAVE ANY GUIDELINES.
AND UH, YES, YOUR POWER BILL WILL PROBABLY GO UP EVEN.
BUT IF WE DON'T PUT ANY KIND OF, UH, GUARD, RAISING GUARD RAILS IN THERE, WHEN THEY COME IN HERE THAT DAY, PROVIDE THEIR OWN, UH, SOMEWHAT THEIR OWN ELECTRIC OR BUILD OUT, MAKE AN AGREEMENT WITH OUR ELECTRIC COOPERATIVES TO BILL IT OUT TO ACCOMMODATE THEM.
AND YOUR TAXES GOING UP RIGHT BEHIND IT.
SO IF YOU, THEY COME IN AND YEAH.
GETTING SOME STATE REVENUE AND THEN YOU, IN THE OTHER HAND, YOU GIVING THEM A TAX INCENTIVE AND THEY ALL DO IT.
YOU KNOW, LIKE FEDERAL MOBILE, 20 YEAR TAX, TAX INCENTIVE DONE.
SO THIS THING, IT'S A BIG GAMBLE.
YOU GOT A LOT OF COMPANIES, RISK MANAGEMENT, RISK MANAGEMENT AND, AND, UH, THEY ARE PUTTING IT ALL IN AND THEY WANT TO DO THIS THING QUICK.
AND YOU KNOW, AI HAS A LOT OF GOOD, IT HAS A LOT OF EVIL IN IT TOO.
SO, UH, YOU KNOW, JUST IMAGINE OUR SENIORS AND YOU KNOW, YOU GOTTA BE SO CAREFUL NOW ONLINE AND ALL THIS AND THAT.
AND THEN THEY SAY IT IS GOOD FOR SOME MEDICAL REASONS AND ALL.
BUT I THINK THAT, UM, A LOT OF, I'VE BEEN LOOKING AT COUNTIES AND I'VE BEEN DOING, I GOT SOME PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY BEEN BILLING THESE THINGS.
I JUST HAPPEN TO KNOW AND I COULD TALK AND, UH, WE NEED TO, UM, TAKE OUR TIME WITH THIS BECAUSE, UH, YOU KNOW, A MATTER A COUPLE OF YEARS, OUR UTILITIES GONNA MOST LIKELY GO UP.
AND WHEN IT GO UP, ONCE THE TOOTH PHASE COME
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OUT THE TUBE, IT'S KIND OF HARD TO GET IT BACK.AND OUR WATERS, YOU KNOW, THEY POLLUTE A LOT OF WATER AND THEY NEED THAT WATER FRESH AND THEY USE A LOT OF WATER.
SO NOW WE GOT A LITTLE STRAIN ON OUR SYSTEM.
SO WE, I JUST THINK WE NEED MORE TIME.
AND WHEN WE DID A, A REFERENDUM ON THIS, UH, YOU KNOW, WE HAD TWO OPTIONS TO DO ANOTHER 90 DAYS AND ANOTHER 90 DAYS WE START, I WOULD SAY IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S A RUSH THROUGH AND THEY GOT CERTAIN PEOPLE ON BOARD WITH IT, BUT JUST FOR THEM TO COME IN AND YOU GET THE STATE.
YEAH, WE, WE ARE FOUR COUNTIES.
BUT, AND THEN IF THE GAMBLE DON'T WORK, THEN TAXPAYERS MONEY GONNA BE JUST LIKE THE OTHER BAILOUTS.
SO THIS THING, IT AIN'T A HUNDRED PERCENT AND IT HAS A LOT OF DOWNSIDE IN A LOT OF STATES THAT GOT IT.
NOW THEY'RE REGRETTING THAT THEY EVEN GOT IT.
I'M NOT SAYING LIKE I, WE HAD SOME GOOD TALK MR. LANIS LAST WEEK BECAUSE ONE BUILDING HERE IN THE INDUSTRIAL TRIP, SO THEY CONTAIN IT, BUT WHO KNOWS WHERE THEY'RE GONNA GO AND SEE MONEY IS A BIG TEMPTATION.
I GET OFFERS EVERY DAY FOR A LITTLE BIT OF DIRT.
MY FATHER AND MY GRANDFATHER STARTED, YOU KNOW, JUST, JUST CONTINUOUSLY.
AND I, I DON'T, I REALLY DON'T THINK IT'S A, A GREAT THING.
I'M NOT KNOCKING, YOU KNOW, ADVANCEMENT IMPROVEMENT.
BUT THIS THING IS LIKE, IT'S A BIG GAMBLE AND IF IT GO BELLY UP, WHAT IS IT GONNA DO FOR THE TAXPAYERS IF I UNDERSTAND IT? WHAT, WHAT WE ARE CHARGED WITH IS COMING UP WITH A DEFINING WHAT COUNSEL THEY ARE.
IS THAT CORRECT? 'CAUSE RIGHT NOW THEY ARE THAT'S CORRECT.
ALRIGHT, SO WE GOTTA DEFINE 'EM AND THEN WE QUOTE UNQUOTE PUT RESTRICTIONS ON THEM.
BEST WE CAN, BEST WE CAN WITH LEGAL EXPERTISE.
AND UM, WE'RE IN THE PLANNING STAGES.
OR NOT THWART, BUT IF A MEGA CENTER COMES, THEN WE WANT IT TO COME ON OUR TERMS, NOT ON THEIR TERMS. THAT'S IT.
UH, TO THAT, UM, POWER SUPPLY.
I'M SORRY, MAKE SOME, THEY THEM ELECTRICITY DEAL WITH THE COOPERATIVES TO OKAY.
BECAUSE IF WE JUST LET 'EM COME IN HERE, WE GONNA SUFFER.
THE WHOLE COUNTY IS GONNA SUFFER.
THEY SAY MOST OF THE BIG ONES NOW PROVIDING, BUT WE THIS GOTTA BE IN RIGHT.
THIS, THIS, THIS, THIS CAN'T BE A CONVERSATION BECAUSE THEY ARE RACING AGAINST THE ELEMENTS.
YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY TRYING TO GET IT DONE OVERNIGHT AND IT'S A BIG GAMBLE.
AND IF IT BLOW UP THEN WE THE ONES THAT ARE GONNA SUFFER.
THAT'S, THAT'S WHY WE GOT A MORE TO WELL, I UNDERSTAND.
WE GONNA GET, I WAS, I WAS TALKING TO, YOU KNOW, WE EXTENDED THAT, WE EXTENDED THE SOLAR TO WE NEED TO, AND THAT'S, THAT, THAT'S JUST A LOT OF CONCERNS THERE.
AND YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN DIGGING IN, YOU KNOW, THAT WE, WE WE'RE SUPPOSEDLY HAVE THE STRONGEST, UH, SOLAR, UH, RULES ON THE BOOK STATES.
SO, AND WE'LL DO THE SAME THING.
WE NEED TO DO BETTER WITH THIS.
'CAUSE THIS IS A MONSTER HERE.
AND WHEN WHAT YOU, I THINK YOU MENTIONED SCIENCE AND WHAT YOU MEANT.
I THINK WE CAN LIMIT SO MANY KILOWATTS OR GIGAHERTZ, WHATEVER THEY CALL IT.
AND WE DON'T WANT ANYTHING ANY BIGGER NOW.
AND I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THAT, BUT I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE LAWYERS COME IN AND RIGHT.
AND THE OTHER PEOPLE ARE WRITING THESE ORDERS IN CHESTER COUNTY HAS A MORATORY AROUND TOO.
UM, SO THEY, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY'S LOOKING AT IT JUST LIKE WE ALL THERE.
FAIRFIELD COUNTY JUST ASKED FOR A YEAR AND THERE'S A LOT OF 'EM.
THEY AIN'T JUST, AND, AND, AND YOU, WE WERE BACK THERE WITH THIS LITTLE EXECUTIVE SESSION WITH OUR ATTORNEY, MR. RHODES.
AND UH, BUT YOU KNOW, THEY COME IN QUICK AND THEY FLASH THAT SHINY OBJECT BEFORE YOUR EYES.
AND I JUST, I'VE BEEN JUST DOING MY OWN PERSONAL, THAT'S JUST THE WAY I LIVE.
I'VE BEEN DIGGING IN AND I DO PLAN, WE REALLY THIS DEAL RIGHT HERE, WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY NO.
BECAUSE, UM, OF WHERE IT IS ZONED AND THEY CAME IN AS UM, UM, INDUSTRIAL.
SO IN, IN THE UDC, THE, UM, THAT IS AN APPROVED USE.
SO THE ONLY THING, NO ONE WOULD HAVE ACTUALLY, UM, RECEIVED INFORMATION ON THIS.
UM, THE ONLY WAY THAT YOU WOULD HAVE RECEIVED INFORMATION WAS JUST FROM, UM, US, THE STAFF, BECAUSE WE HAD NO, YES, WE HAD NO OTHER CHOICE BUT TO APPROVE IT THROUGH A, UM, USE PERMIT PROCESS BECAUSE IT WAS ALREADY, AND IT'S ALREADY AN EXISTING STRUCTURE, UM, OUT THERE IN THE INDUSTRIAL PARK.
SO WE ARE JUST BASICALLY GOING THROUGH THE FORMAL, UM, PROCESS OF THE BUILDING CODE TO MAKE SURE WHEN THEY DO CONSTRUCT THIS PROJECT IS IT'S GONNA BE ALL THE BUILDING CODE REQUIREMENTS.
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FAR AS THE PLANNING AND ZONING OF IT, IT WAS, IT WAS NOTHING THAT WE COULD DO.MAY I ASK A QUESTION? MM-HMM
IF, IF WE UNDER THE MORATORY, THE MORATORIUM EXPIRES AND WE HAVE NOT YET COME UP WITH OUR PLACE, RIGHT.
OUR AMENDMENTS AND THEY WANT TO PUT, UM, A MEGA FACILITY IN THE MIDDLE OF SOMEBODY'S FARM AND THE IS WILLING AND, AND, AND THE FARMER IS WILLING TO SELL IT.
OR CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW THERE'S NOTHING IN THE UDC THAT WILL PREVENT IT.
UM, YOU, THEY, THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO COME BEFORE YOU ALL, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING IN PLACE.
THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE MORATORIUM, WE NEED THE MORATORIUM STOPS.
BUT IF WE, IF THE MORATORIUM EXPIRES BEFORE WE GET A, UM, REGULATED ORDINANCE IN PLACE, THEN UM, YOU KNOW, UNFORTUNATELY WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING IN PLACE.
SO WE NEED TO BE WORKING VIGILANT ON THAT IS CORRECT.
AND THAT'S, AND THAT'S, AND, AND I WANNA ADD IN, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW.
UM, WE'RE CURRENTLY, UM, TRYING TO DEVELOP ORDINANCE.
AND ALSO TOO, WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING WITH, UM, OTHER JURISDICTIONS TO SEE WHAT THEY'RE, UM, PROPOSING.
AND UM, ACTUALLY WE LOOKED AT SUMTER COUNTY, WE LOOKED AT KERSHAW COUNTY, WE LOOKED AT COLLINGTON COUNTY AND WE'RE, UM, COMPARING DARES BASICALLY TO WHAT FITS CLARENDON COUNTY.
AND WHAT WE REALLY MAINLY WANNA PRESERVE IS OUR AGRICULTURAL AND WE WANNA PRESERVE OUR LAKES.
SO, UM, WE'RE, UM, NEGOTIATING, UM, AND THEN WE HAVE IT LEGAL TO LOOK AT IT.
UM, WITH THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE, WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING IN PLACE YET.
UM, RIGHT NOW WE JUST THROWING OUT A COUPLE OF THINGS BASICALLY ON WHAT YOU ALL HAVE JUST PREVIOUSLY, UM, MENTIONED, UM, DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS, UM, UM, DECOMMISSION AGREEMENTS, BASICALLY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAVE IN THE, UM, SOLAR FARM ORDINANCE.
SO, AND ALSO PERFORMANCE, UH, PERFORMANCE AGREEMENT, PERFORMANCE BONDS.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING INTO ALL THOSE ASPECTS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COUNTY IS PROTECTED, UM, IN THE EVENT, UM, WHEN THESE THINGS, YOU KNOW, START TO, UM, DEVELOP.
SO WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE SOMETHING TO POSSIBLY LOOK AT NEXT MONTH, POSSIBLY IF WE HAVE, UM, EVERYTHING THAT, UH, WE NEED IN PLACE.
AND ALL OF THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE RESEARCH AND ALL THE INFORMATION THAT IS, UM, CONCLUDED.
IT COULD BE BACK BEFORE YOU ALL IN OCTOBER, BUT, UM, I WILL, UM, KEEP YOU ALL POSTED AND LET YOU ALL KNOW WELL, CAN I, AGAIN, THIS I'M, I'M GONNA STOP, BUT IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE WE'RE BEING PROACTIVE ON THIS.
AS OPPOSED TO WITH THE SOLAR FARM.
SO I, I APPLAUD WHERE WE'RE ON THIS.
HOW MUCH TIME ARE WE GONNA GET IF WE NEED IT BEFORE WE GET THIS THING TO COUNCIL? UM, ARE WE GONNA BE ABLE TO EXPAND THIS? YES, WE CAN EXPAND IT IF THERE IS NO, UM, IF THERE'S NO RESOLUTION, UM, WITH YOU ALL.
WE, UM, WE CAN TAKE IT BEFORE COUNSELING TO HAVE COUNSEL TO, UM, JUST WANNA MAKE SURE TO EXPAND IT AT ANY GIVEN TIME.
YEAH, THEY HAVE DONE IT BEFORE.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE CAN TAKE IT BEFORE THEM AND HAVE THEM EXPAND IT.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? MOVING ON DOWN OUR AGENDA, THEN WE'LL MOVE RIGHT ON TO OUR
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DIRECTOR'S REPORT.MS. TABITHA? UM, I HAVE NO REPORT.
UM, AS WE GET TOWARDS THE END OF THE YEAR, THIS IS, UM, SEPTEMBER.
AND UM, I DO WANNA GET SOME IDEAS ON OUR CHRISTMAS.
UM, I WOULD, 'CAUSE WE HAVE TO GET A HEAD START, SO, UM, ABSOLUTELY.
I DO WANNA GET SOME INSIGHT FROM YOU ALL ON WHERE WOULD YOU ALL LIKE TO HAVE YOUR CHRISTMAS
SO IT AIN'T GONNA HELP OUR COMMUNITY.
SO DON'T TRY TO SAY THAT IT'S GONNA BRING A WHOLE LOT OF JOBS BECAUSE THEY, THEY SPECIFY THEIR SKILL JOB AND I DON'T SEE A LOT THEN I, I KNOW THERE'S SOME GOOD IN IT WITH MEDICINE AND STUFF, BUT IT, IT IS, WE NEED TO THINK SERIOUS ABOUT THIS HERE BEFORE WE GET SMACKED DOWN IN THE MIDDLE OF IT AND, AND CAN'T, YOU KNOW, ONCE THE MONSTER GET LOOSE, WE CAN'T CONTAIN IT.
AND THEN IF IT DON'T WORK, EVERYBODY WALKING AROUND WITH AI ON THE PHONE.
I MEAN, WE GOT GOOGLING, WE GOT ALL THOSE THINGS,
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BUT THIS IS SERIOUS BUSINESS, BUT, YOU KNOW, AND WATER AND POOL.YOU GOT ANY SUGGESTIONS ON THE CHRISTMAS, BACK TO CHRISTMAS? OH, WE KNOW THAT.
WHAT'S YOUR SUGGESTION? SHOULD I GET IN CONTACT WITH BOB? I THINK DOES A NICE JOB FOR US.
THEY'VE GOT SPACE, SO WE JUST NEED TO GET THE TIME AND, UH, ANYWHERE ELSE WE'RE GONNA BE PROUD.
THE COUNTY GOT ENOUGH MONEY NOW THAT WE, WE CAN VOTE 10 TRADITIONS.
I ENJOYED, WE HAVEN'T APPROVED IT YET FOR THE RECORD.